October 17th, 1917....The miracle of the sun

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  1. drifter106

    drifter106 Newly Registered

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    My bad...the title should be October 13th, 1917


    Over 70,000 witnesses gathered at the Cova da Iria in Portugal to witness this miraculous event. The sun itself fell from the sky, danced erratically, and then returned to its place. Many witnesses reported that their clothes and the ground around them, saturated with rain, had suddenly dried. Can you imagine being one of the 70,000 people who was able to witness this incredible event?

    The Miracle of the Sun was a powerful sign from God confirming the messages of Our Lady of Fatima. She had warned the children of Fatima of the coming war and the need for prayer and conversion. The miracle was a call to humanity to repent and return to God.

    The Miracle of the Sun is a reminder of the power of God and the intercession of His Blessed Mother. It is also a sign of hope, even in the midst of darkness. We can trust that God is always with us and that He will never abandon us.

    From what I have read...it was seen by people in ships a 100 miles away from Fatima.

    Here's the thing...The BVM had been appearing to the 3 kids prior to this event. She told them on the 13th of Oct. there would be a miracle from God to prove this all to be true. This short film gives you a better idea of what went down. It had been raining all day and suddenly their clothes became completely dry. A basilica was built where the seers saw the BVM....thats what you see at the end of this clip. This site is visited by millions....

     
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    And? People claim to see the likeness of the Virgin Mary in a burnt piece of toast....
     
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    Can you provide anything to substantiate your comment?
     
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    You can provide nothing to substantiate a miracle here. Hell, if the sun really did move around like that, it would have been visible from all over the earth, not just from one location. If anything, we know for a fact this story is complete bull ****.
     
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    The OP is just utter rubbish.
     
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    I don't understand the deifying of Mary. She isn't part of the Godhead. She is saved just as anyone else who accepts Jesus Christs sacrifice. His mission wasn't to honor and glorify Mary or anyone of us, but his Father in heaven.
     
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    This is a little light on the details that matter. Here are some excerpts from the wiki page.

    The sun did not really dance in the sky. We know this because, of course, everyone on Earth is under the same sun, and if the closest dying star to us suddenly began doing celestial gymnastics a few billion other people would surely have reported it​

    I guess anyone who uses this event to argue for a god is arguing for some kind of trickster-deception god.

    Schwebel states, "not only did all those present not see the phenomenon, but also there are considerable inconsistencies among witnesses as to what they did see". Schwebel also observes that there is no authentic photo of the solar phenomena claimed, "despite the presence of hundreds of reporters and photographers at the field"​

    Of course, this is a biased selection of quotes. I'm mostly arguing that the OP here is lacking enough detail, to the point where I'm not even sure if you are suggesting we (or you) believe it.
     
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    Per the DSM-5 and your bible your God is Narcissistic Personality Disorder Patient ZERO.

    That makes TransJesus Patient Zero for ASD.

    Since these diagnosis are HERITABLE that makes Mary ASD too.
     
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    Your entire world view is based on the musings of modern psychiatry
    The Apostle Paul said, "If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
    For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ." Paul had previously persecuted the followers of Jesus Christ.
     
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    Sure beats your "entire world view" which is based upon Stone Age Superstitions and Myths.

    Xtofascist NPD tactic to GASLIGHT others noted!

    You mean the SAME POS that James, the BROTHER of Jesus, called out as a LIAR?

    But that is WHO you choose to QUOTE?

    Hysterical!
     
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    No, I know this day that God lives. Think or believe what you will.

    Are you as student or a patient of the gospel of transitory short sightedness?

    There's that seething anger bordering on maniacal again.
     

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