Trump Is Disqualified From the 2024 Ballot, Colorado Supreme Court Rules

One lady.. well that's quite a following Trump has.

 

The rules for being President are established in the Constitution. The Constitution is the Law of the land. Where has Trump been convicted of any of the articles that deprive him of being placed on the Colorado ballot. The Presidential election is a federal matter. Removing Trump off the ballot, because four people do not want him to be President, is like the Political Forum members taking off all those who someone disagrees with. Trump has not been convicted of any of the crimes of the 14th Amendment that would deny him office.

 

ALL elections are a state matter. There is no such thing as a "Federal Election".

The closest we come to a "Federal Election" is the vote by the members of the Electoral College. Who makes up the Electoral College is decided by a state election.

 

insurrection n : the act or an instance of revolting esp. violently against civil or political authority or against an established government
;also
: the crime of inciting or engaging in such revolt [whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or against the authority of the United States…shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years "U.S. Code"]

Sedition : conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch. Those who actually crossed the line and entered the building by force, are responsible for their own actions. Trump never told them to riot. He told them to march down there and let them know how they felt. Our forefathers established this country on sedition and insurrection. There have been countless protests in front of the Capital and other federal buildings in this country, some peaceful and some not.
The people on Jan.6th were not trying to overthrow a government but to delay a certification of an election they thought was stolen from them. It was bad judgement on the majority of them, but, not a insurrection.

I was not at the Capital on Jan 6th so I have not made any attempt to disfranchise the voices of the left. I believe in the Constitution and welcome the dissenting voices of those I disagree with. I believe all voters have a right to choose their nominee for office, even if it is radical, and even if I lose. I do not believe a couple judges should be able to disenfranchise the voters of their state without due process. Let the voters decide.

 

Who is discarding the Constitution? What is your premise?

 

um.... no. Trump wasn't "convicted" or even demonstrated to have "lent comfort to seditionists"... that's an entirely false narrative that you made up. Biden, on the other had, for example, gave Iran 6 Billion dollars back even though they actively fund terror, and funded Hamas in their attack on Israel. Biden has allowed more than 8 Million invaders to cross the border since his inauguration. Talk about aid and comfort. Not to mention treason.

You folks just never see the long view or the big picture. CO SC just gave every state in the nation the mechanism to remove any political candidate based on the "perceived" crime absent any due process. And this is you clapping for that tyranny. I point out that should you actually want to play this game that every red state can and then should, based on the CO decision, remove Joe Biden from the ballot. Why shouldn't they?

I'm always amazed at progressives/democrats ignorance of the Constitution. These little spats of "mommy said so" are getting really old.

 

The election of the President is a National election. All other elections are state.

 

The Constitution sets the eligibility (and disqualification) parameters for being president.

MAGA conservatives seem to want to ignore 14A(3), and let the voters decide.

If someone is ineligible according to the Constitution … they aren’t eligible. That isn’t something that should be left up to the voters.

 

No, it isn't.

It's 50 different state elections. In those elections we elect the people who, in turn, vote for President. But the election of the electors is a state election.

 

You do make several accurate points -- but -- Trump lying to a crowd of supporters about the 2020 election being stolen is not (NOT) the same thing as grabbing up weapons, marching at the head of an army, and launching a shooting war against the government! Truth? In the January 6th riot the only ones firing weapons were the Capitol Police, and the only ones who were shot were the protesters....

."Y'all call THAT an 'insurrection'?! In what reality is that?"

 

LoL

No.

The MAGA stormed the Capitol to keep Trump in power.

And they've been manipulated by the most dangerous politician in US history.

 

No, what MAGA and anyone who cares about upholding of the Constitution, care about is that the interpretation of the Articles of such document are upheld. In the Colorado case the court voted to remove Trump under the auspices that he committed sedition, insurrection and treason. Yet, there is no record of Trump being convicted of any of those crimes. That would be like a blue state removing Biden off the ballot because he took money from foreign countries like China, Ukraine, etc. without being convicted of any crime.

 

INSURRECTION

1. an act or instance of rising in revolt, rebellion, or resistance against civil authority or an established government.
   

Nothing in there about "grabbing up weapons" or "marching at the head of an army" or "launching a shooting war against the government"

Those who were involved in the attack on the Capitol on January 6, 2021 were committing an "act of resistance against civil authority"

By definition, an insurrection.

 

Believe what you want to belive. You may have a sitting President now who could very well be the head of a sitting crime family in the Oval office.

 

Where are you in your journey to accept reality?

Do you believe, like many MAGAs, that the FBI is behind all this?

Or BLM?

The MAGA are champions of believing their own lies.

Trump is criminally accused of encouraging an insurrection, attempting to illegally delay the transition of power and defrauding USA.

This trial will be public and there are three more to come.

Will you be able to hold out?

 

Thanks.

Of coarse.....

 

The difference Sir, is that four judges already have used accusations not facts against Trump to remove him from the ballot. Jack Smith in NY has not accused Trump of sedition or insurrection.

 

Not “committed”. Not “convicted of”.

“Engaged in”. Something that a non-criminal court can decide.

The argument may ultimately succeed. It is possible. But if you understand the legal system at all, you should also be able to understand how it could fail.

 

Incitement.

But isn't the charge of attempting to defraud the US serious enough for you?

 

The 91 judges, and the 3 in Colorado already know how the SCOTUS will rule and on what bases.

1. The Constitution is loaded with legal wording which is why every time the 2nd is attacked, it gets shot down. Thats why the left gets accused of interpreting instead of following the constitution. They take the words of the constitution and try to apply other meanings.
Example
(shall have engaged in) means convicted of and there are thousands of references why. The biggest is no judge can convict anyone of anything without a jury trial in the state where the act was charged. Since those other constitutional requirements exist, this dies before it even starts as the 4 judges claim Trump engaged in insurrection

2. The 14th Amendment was enacted to protect post-war reforms in the South by barring members of Congress, state government officials, and military leaders who had sided with the Confederacy from holding office in the future

3. Even if everything else is wrong (and its not) Trump was acquitted of insurrection. Which is why he can't be charged again.

 

Try to remember "Innocent until proven guilty" by a legitimate court of his peers.

 

First, We are not a democracy when the will of a screaming minority is able to override the will of the majority

Second, trump wasn’t going to win CO anyway

Third, there are hundreds of lower court rulings reversed each year. Let’s see why SCOTUS says.

Btw, the people upset that this is going to cancel legitimate voters don’t seem to mind when it is closing polling stations, or manipulating voter weight due to gerrymandering. They also didn’t seem to care when they tried to delete the entire 2020 election.

I no longer care what they think. They demanded war.

 

No. Just like charges of Biden selling influence shouldn't be enough for you until proven guilty.

 

For the 10,000th time. An impeachment is a POLITICAL action, not a LEGAL or JUDICIAL action.

If someone wanted to criminally charge Trump with insurrection (and provided they can find a Grand Jury to agree) he can be charged with "insurrection" (I'm not 100% sure what statute that is). Being found "Not Guilty" in an impeachment does not trigger double jeopardy.

 

.. .. And, it can get you shot!