Trump barred from being President of Colorado.

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right....it's based on an accusation.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WRONG AGAIN! Division started with O'Bama and continued with O'Biden, his "mini-me". Facts are real.
     
  3. Xyce

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    Notice that all of your links are of articles published from 2020 the earliest. In the abstract, before 2020, there was a bipartisan consensus that mail-in voting increases voter fraud. When 2020 rolled around, there was a sudden switch in attitude: suddenly, mail-in voting does not, in fact, increase voter fraud. I've already provided articles from such institutions as the New York Times, Slate, and MIT, none of which would quite be described as bastions of far-right conspiracy mongering. But in the day and age of relativism and postmodernism, where men can be women and vice versa, the truth--at least when it comes to the left, which has hijacked once reputable institutions, such as the New York Times--has to be reappraised in that same left-wing framework. And in that framework, mail-in voting is essentially just as reliable as in-person voting, and there is no positive correlation with voter fraud, despite all the decades of evidence to the contrary.

    I think this paragraph from the Wall Street Journal essentially wraps it up:

    ‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III.

    I don't think Jimmy Carter would be suitably characterized as "right wing [sic]."

    So now Time is a part of a "spate of right wing [sic] echo chamber conspiracy theories"? Really? Time? Is that your move? If you don't like or have a substantive answer when the other side not only points to an article in the mainstream press but actually quotes from it, it suddenly becomes right-wing conspiracy theories? Again, this quote from the Time article "The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election":

    A well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information.

    Of course, the author of that piece says that it was not rigging. No, no, no. It's "fortifying":

    That’s why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying [emphasis added] it. And they believe the public needs to understand the system’s fragility in order to ensure that democracy in America endures.

    See, so that's a good thing!

    Again, you've shown that you are not worthy to debate me, since you just resort to, in a seemingly autonomic way, just replying with puerile sentences peppered with "right wing [sic]," "conspiracy theories," etc., even when I quote from articles in the mainstream press. For someone that I assume probably watched An Inconvenient Truth more than once, ironically, you don't do well replying to inconvenient truths.

    We're done here. You lose. Do better next time.
     
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  4. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Excellent and well stated!
     
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    Noone Well-Known Member

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    No, observation of bullshit he was "engaged" in.
     
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  7. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Heresay.
     
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    There tortured theory is that Trump asking them to "find votes" was asking them to fabricate fraudulent votes, when clearly he was asking them to find legitimate votes that were not counted.
     
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    Exactly, that's what I say ... here. TRaitor tRump "engaged in insurrection.
     
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    True. AND it was fueled by the Democrats and the mainstream media during the Trump administration. Well demonstrated by their jumping on board with the BLM/ANTIFA riots and their justifications. Aided by the deep state that promoted fabrications of Hillarys law firm and their contractors Fusion GPS and Crowdstrike.
     
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    No amount of factual rebuttal will leave a mark on that one. He makes excuses for Chuck Schumer threatening supreme Court justices and inciting the mobs.

    But hey Joe Biden made history as the first mail order president !
     
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  12. Noone

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    "Clearly" he used the full power of the Presidency of These United States to lean on election officials to illegally overturn the 2020 Presidential election and stay in power. The ONLY thing "tortured" is the empty attempts to defend his larceny.
     
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    Thank you. I'd say that I do my level best, but that's not really needed when arguing with these people. They argue till their blue in the face about elementary facts that once upon a time were considered to be elementary facts on both sides of the aisle.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes, but taking over an hour and a half to say just those 11 words. is a definite "time violation" punishable by law.

    I don't know if you realize that every time you guys come up with these RIDICULOUS arguments, you make it more and more blatantly clear that you don't have any REAL arguments.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yep! So?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Only a criminal court can determine that. Whether it is or not is irrelevant to the 14th A. And this is why Trump's attorneys are not even bothering to make this absurd argument. They are making other absurd arguments. But not this one.
     
  17. LangleyMan

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    I don't take this seriously: "The 2020 presidential election was not par for the course; it was not conducted like the 2016 election, for example. There was an astronomical implementation of mail-in voting, which has a positive correlation with fraud."[/QUOTE]
    This was your justification. Why would this factoid move me to think Trump was justified in what he did?
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  18. conservaliberal

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    The Chinese worked very, very hard and, generally, were treated like **** by those who funded, designed, and masterminded American railroads in the Western U. S. Back in those days, nearly everyone who worked in manual labor was treated like ****, regardless off color, creed, or national origin. Perhaps we can agree on that much, although it is true that nobody enslaved the Chinese who had come here of their own free will, and who wanted to work and make money just like everyone else.

    But to say that Mexican Americans (no apostrophe required, BTW) "built ... almost the whole South West" is some of the most groundless, inaccurate and frankly SILLY nonsense I've ever read. What in hell happened to our education systems in this country that anyone could even make statements like that?! :xd:
     
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    I think not, but I wouldn't fault them under the circumstances.
     
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    I happen to know first hand the skill and craftsmanship Mexican Americans are capable of. The only thing "nonsensically silly" is your illusory superiority. :wtf: If you get off on being condescending don't reply to me.
     
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    Sometimes I highlight when I emphasize a topic and bring along supporting statements. A lot of times the assertion is unsupported.
     
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    No doubt, you're a cut above the rest.
    :thumbsup::rock_slayer:
     
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    Exposed,well done sir..
     
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    @Condor060's post was to @Golem, hence "[to @Golem--LM]" in the post.
    You appear confused.
     
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    I for just what to say, thanks. It's not often a poster adds a visual. Makes me giggle every time see it.. only problem is, it makes the post seem more comical and less intuitive :shock:

    Not that I'm complaining ;)
     
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