Trump barred from being President of Colorado.

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  1. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

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    That's just not true.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Like I said, he was "attempting"

    He didnt order the investigation. That was the DOJ. And obviously that part of the checks in our system dont apply to Hillary or Biden
     
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    He didnt order the investigation. That was the DOJ. And obviously that part of the checks in our system dont apply to Hillary or Biden[/QUOTE]
    HRC was investigated for 8 years at a cost of 1 million dollars a year and was charged with .... NOTHING. IF President Biden isn't "part of the checks", what is it the tRumpublican House is doing?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The trap the court finds itself in is largely a function of its own behavior, both on and off the bench. The 6-to-3 conservative supermajority has radically expanded gun rights, circumscribed the Environmental Protection Agency’s ability to protect the environment, all but eviscerated race-based affirmative action, punched holes through the wall separating church from state and — most notoriously — eliminated the constitutional right to abortion. The past year has also seen increasing public scrutiny of the justices’ apparent ethical lapses, sunlight that pushed the justices to adopt their first code of ethics.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/23/opinion/trump-supreme-court.html

    Faith in the Court will decline further unless they enforce the rule of law and find against Trump.
     
  5. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I served under Barr early in my DOJ career. He signed my commission. He was a really good AG under Bush I. not so much under Trump
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Good! Because that's what's going to land him in prison. And "peacefully" is not a magic word that will magically revive the people who lost their lives, or set free any single insurrectionist, or make the threats he made to election officials disappear, or help restore the social standing of all the people who lost their livelihood and are scared to even give their names in public beccause they werer targeted by Trump and his minions.

    For all this is that Trump WILL be convicted. But you say you heard all that CRAP. If you did, you now know why justice for all those people will have its day in court.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Those ARE weapons. So are stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats, ... But I'm not talking just about those. I'm talking about firearms. Trump KNEW the mob was armed with firearms! The fact that they didn't use them only means that they were a bit (only a tiny bit) more judicious (or less un-judicious) than Trump.

    I strongly encourage you to follow what REALLY happened in the Capitol. Obviously you've been following only the right wingnut media. And that's a surefire way of being completely uninformed.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I had high hopes for Barr when Trump appointed him. I thought he would be better and more assertive than Jeff Sessions... a certifiable wimp. However, Barr disappointed.
     
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    no argument-Trump's AGs were almost as bad as Obama and Biden's. Eric Holder had a pretty good reputation among DOJ attorneys before he proved the Peter Principle to be accurate.
     
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    Look. You had your chance to have a substantive, intellectually engaging debate with me about the 2020 election, specifically focusing on the astronomical implementation of mail-in voting and its factual positive correlation with fraud and the systemic censorship campaign of Big Tech and the mainstream press. I took the time to make claims and support those claims with evidence, even from mainstream sources, such as MIT, the New York Times, Slate, NPR, Time, and more, only for you to, in a seemingly autonomic way, reply back with "conspiracy theories," "right wing [sic]," etc., which does not take much time, effort, or intelligence to do. Therefore, it is a waste of time to intellectually engage with you.

    You lost this one. Heed my advice: stop posting, think about what you did, and do better next time.

    Next!
     
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    He didnt order the investigation. That was the DOJ. And obviously that part of the checks in our system dont apply to Hillary or Biden

    Yeah, thats the point. Hillary had all of her official emails on her private server and Comey didnt charge her. Claiming she didnt know she was violating the law. She was guilty of what they are now charging Trump with in the document case.
     
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    Yeah, thats the point. Hillary had all of her official emails on her private server and Comey didn't charge her. Claiming she didn't know she was violating the law. She was guilty of what they are now charging Trump with in the document case.[/QUOTE]
    Comey didn't claim that, his position was that she didn't break any laws in any significant way, and prosecution would not result in a penalty worth pursuing.
     
  13. dixon76710

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    ]Yeah, thats the point. Hillary had all of her official emails on her private server and Comey didn't charge her.
    Please edit that post and remove YOUR quote you attribute to me.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    You just make this **** up as you go along.
     
  15. Noone

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    No, that's not "made up", tRaitor tRump argued with the secret service that the "mags" (magnetic detectors) weren't necessary because "those people weren't there to hurt him". :shock:

    January 6 hearings: Trump knew supporters marching to Capitol were armed
    But a planned rally went ahead, with Mr Trump saying the armed attendees were "not here to hurt me".
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61971428

    Which proves two things:
    • He knew his supporters were armed.
    • he doesn't giveAshit about anyone but himself.
     
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    I very much doubt you would care to define "substantive" as devoid of conspiracy theories. So it would not be intellectually engaging. However, it is also not the topic of this thread.

    Everything we have seen about the 2020 elections indicates that elections in this country (in general) are VERY clean. And that 2020 was likely the cleanest of all. The main reason being that it was the most scrutinized election we have ever had. We found more POTENTIAL sources of voter fraud than we had ever seen. Not because they were "new".... we just hadn't looked. But, in the end, after all the searching, close scrutiny, accusations, lawsuits, ... the fact that NO widespread voter fraud was found, speaks to how clearly out elections reflect the will of the voters.

    With the exception, of course, of fake news. I would categorize fake news driven mostly by the Trump campaign's collusion with Russia (proven in the Mueller Report for 2016) as voter fraud. Most likely LEGAL voter fraud... but voter fraud nonetheless.

    However, this is all off-topic in this thread.... If you can discuss the topic WITHOUT having to resort to unsubstantiated Conspiracy Theories, that topic might be interesting and you should open a thread. But if you're going to resort to some "Deep State" nonsense, don't bother...

    On the other hand, if you can PROVE that this "Deep State" conspiracy exists... with factual objective evidence, that would be topic for yet ANOTHER thread. Definitely not this one.
     
  17. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

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    I was quoting your post #627
    The quote html got mangled NOT the quote. :roll:
     
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    You have a penchant for self aggrandizement and condensation. So I went back an found your references, which are thin as piss on a rock. You very carefully pull quotes that, you think will appear to support your position; they don't especially when read in context. Then you conflated the problematic nature of "Absentee Ballots" to apply to Mail-in-Voting. Which isn't true and, if anything, the popular adaptation of Mail-in-Voting has improved the security of "Absentee Ballots".

    You "lost this one" in three ways:
    • The deviousness of your posting highlighted by your selective quoting.
    • Your condescending nature and self aggrandizement makes your veracity highly suspect.
    • And then with no real proof you discount counter documentation out of hand and with only your opinion as justification
    You're absolutely wrong about Mail-in-Voting. My State has done it for years, and is renown for it's security and inclusiveness. The ONLY, and fundamental reason the right is against it is Mail-in is exponentially more inclusive and that is not good news for tRumpublicans. The more people that vote, the worse tRaitor tRump does, in fact he never would have become president if so many people wouldn't have been complacent. In fact the only real reason for the relentless attacks on President Biden is to discourage voters.
     
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  19. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no it is more about confusing the genders.
     
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    Well they dragged out these charges to make a political show of them and Trump will be President before it happens. Golem, enjoy your wet dream now because it will not work. We'll talk again when it's over.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who have you worked for? I'm sure a good part of your reason was for the money, maybe for notoriety. It's to be expected.
     
  22. Noone

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    I don't see any evidence of that. None.
     
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    Tsk tsk.

    Such tawdry cop outs and soporific self puffery/posturing does not remotely rise to a 'substantive, intellectually engaging' argument.

    Anyone so capable would never traffic in such sophomoric verbiage.

    Clearly, you have an over inflated ego--you are the proverbial legend in your own mind.

    Now please pester someone else.
     
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    Of course, Trump ordered it.
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  25. dixon76710

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    You quoted YOUR post 628 as if it was my post.
     

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