Trump barred from being President of Colorado.

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  1. Xyce

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    Clearly, they should not be taken seriously. After all, they have this line in their signature: "The January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol, was the most heinous betrayal of OUR country EVER!!!!" That person is not thinking clearly, living and breathing in hyperbole.
     
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    sheltered comes to mind
     
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    No, you didn't. You know exactly what you did.

    And what you did proved my point.

    Thanks again.

    Have a nice day.
     
  4. dixon76710

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    DOJ creates and appoints Special Counsels investigations as well as make the selection.
     
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    Just The News’ John Solomon exclusively obtained documents showing that President Trump offered National Guard protection to the United States Capitol four days before the events of January 6, 2021. According to Solomon’s reporting:

    “An official timeline of the Jan. 6 tragedy assembled by Capitol Police shows that a Defense Department official reached out to a Capitol Police deputy chief, Sean Gallagher, on Jan. 2, 2021 to see if a request for troops was forthcoming, but the offer was quickly rejected after a consultation with then-Chief Steve Sund.”
    Report Shows President Trump Offered National Guard to the United States Capitol Four Days Before 1/6 | U.S. Representative (gop.gov)

    According to Miller's testimony, Trump asked during that meeting whether the District of Columbia's mayor had requested National Guard troops for Jan. 6, the day Congress was to ratify Joe Biden's presidential election victory.

    Trump told Miller to "fill" the request, the former defense secretary testified. Miller said Trump told him: "Do whatever is necessary to protect demonstrators that were executing their constitutionally protected rights."
    Trump wanted troops to protect his supporters at Jan. 6 rally | Reuters
     
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    And likely all the undercover FBI agents were armed as well.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    I did say ON the Capitol grounds.
     
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    That's a list of weapons taken into the Capitol Building.
     
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    Lies
     
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    This is the article that that list came from:

    'Armed insurrection': What weapons did the Capitol rioters carry?

    "As of tonight at least 65 of the Jan. 6 defendants have been charged with 'entering a restricted area with a dangerous or deadly weapon.' A counterpunch to those who argued this didn't appear like 'an armed insurrection.

    Of the cases involving weapons, there are four main charges:
    • "Assaulting, Resisting, or Impeding Certain Officers Using a Dangerous Weapon"
    • "Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building with a Deadly or Dangerous Weapon"
    • "Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building with a Deadly or Dangerous Weapon"
    • "Engaging in Physical Violence in a Restricted Building with a Deadly or Dangerous Weapon."
    Going through the Justice Department site, as well as some media databases, I counted 82 defendants who have been charged with at least one of those offenses. It's possible I missed a few, but I think they represent the vast majority of those who face weapons-related charges in the Capitol riot investigation. In each charge, prosecutors have specified the weapon the defendant is accused of using. Below is a list of all the defendants, and all the weapons:'


    DEFENDANT WEAPON
    ALAM, Zachary Jordan Helmet
    ALBERTS, Christopher Michael Handgun (Alberts was arrested after the riot was over, at 7:25 p.m., on a street near the Capitol and was accused of having a firearm.)
    BALLARD, Thomas John Police baton
    BARNETT, Richard Stun gun, walking stick
    BARNHART, Logan James Baton, flagpole, crutch
    BLACK, Joshua Matthew Knife
    BLAIR, David Alan Flagpole, knife
    BROCKHOFF, Nicholas James Fire extinguisher
    BYERLY, Alan William Taser
    CALDWELL, Daniel Ray Pepper or mace spray
    CAPUCCIO, Steven Baton
    CHRESTMAN, William Ax handle
    COFFEE, Luke Russell Crutch
    COFFMAN, Lonnie Leroy Multiple firearms (Coffman is not charged with being on Capitol grounds; allegedly had two guns on his person, plus firearms in his truck parked on 1st Street SE in Washington D.C.)
    COPELAND, Landon Kenneth Metal fence
    CUA, Bruno Joseph Baton
    DEMPSEY, David Nicholas Crutch, metal pole, "lacrimal spray," and "club-like object"
    EISENHART, Lisa Marie Taser
    FAIRLAMB, Scott Kevin Baton
    FOY, Michael Joseph Hockey stick
    GIESWEIN, Robert Baseball bat, "aerosol irritant spray"
    GOSSJANKOWSKI, Vitali Taser
    HARKRIDER, Alex Kirk Tomahawk ax
    IBRAHIM, Mark Sami Firearm
    JACKSON, Emanuel Metal baseball bat
    JAMES, Aaron Shield
    JENKINS, Shane Leedon Tomahawk ax, flagpole, desk drawer, and "stick-like objects"
    JENSEN, Douglas Austin Knife
    JOHNSON, Paul Russell Metal crowd control barrier
    JONES, Chad Barrett Flagpole
    JUDD, David Lee Firecracker
    KHATER, Julian Elie Chemical spray (Accused of attacking Officer Brian Sicknick)
    KLEIN, Federico Guillermo Shield
    KRAMER, Philip Edward Snowboarding helmet, walking cane, Master Lock, climbing rope
    LANG, Edward Jacob Bat, shield
    LANGUERAND, Nicholas Traffic barrier, "stick-like objects"
    LAZAR, Samuel Chemical irritant
    MCABEE, Ronald Colton Baton, flagpole, crutch, and "reinforced gloves"
    MCCAUGHEY, Patrick E. III Shield
    MCGREW, James Burton Pole
    MCHUGH, Sean Michael Bear spray, "metal sign"
    MCKELLOP, Jeffrey Flagpole
    MEREDITH, Cleveland Grover Jr. Firearms (Meredith arrived in Washington after the riot was over but was charged with having three guns in his possession.)
    MELLIS, Jonathan Gennaro Stick
    MILLER, Matthew Ryan Fire extinguisher
    MINK, Jorden Robert Baseball bat
    MUNAFO, Jonathan Joshua Flagpole
    MUNCHEL, Eric Taser
    NEEFE, Marshall Wooden club, "metal sign frame"
    NICHOLS, Ryan Taylor Crowbar, pepper spray
    OWENS, Grady Douglas Skateboard
    PADILLA, Joseph Lino Flagpole, "large metal sign"
    PALMER, Robert Scott Fire extinguisher, "stick-like object"
    PERKINS, Michael Steven Flagpole
    POLLOCK, Jonathan Daniel Flagpole, riot shield
    PONDER, Mark K. Pole
    POWELL, Rachel Marie Ice ax, "large wooden pole"
    QUAGLIN, Christopher Joseph Shield, pepper spray
    RANDOLPH, Stephen Chase Metal crowd control barrier
    REFFITT, Guy Wesley Handgun
    RODRIGUEZ, Daniel Flagpole, "electroshock weapon"
    RODRIGUEZ, Edward Francisco Chemical irritant
    SABOL, Jeffrey Baton, flagpole, crutch
    SAMSEL, Ryan Stephen Metal crowd control barrier
    SANFORD, Robert Fire extinguisher
    SCHAFFER, Jon Bear spray
    SCHWARTZ, Peter J. Pepper spray
    SILLS, Geoffrey William Baton
    SMITH, Charles Bradford Knife
    STAGER, Peter Francis Baton, flagpole, crutch
    STEVENS, Tristan Chandler Shield
    SULLIVAN, John Earle Knife
    TAAKE, Andrew Quentin Pepper spray, metal whip
    TANIOS, George Pierre Chemical spray (Accused of attacking Officer Brian Sicknick)
    TAYLOR, Russell Knife
    THOMPSON, Devlyn Baton
    WATSON, William Pepper spray
    WEBSTER, Thomas Flagpole
    WESTBURY, Isaac Shield
    WHITTON, Jack Wade Baton, flagpole, crutch
    WILSON, Duke Edward Pipe
    WORRELL, Christopher John Pepper spray

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/armed-insurrection-what-weapons-capitol-rioters-carry
     
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    This is what you were responding to

    From your post regarding "FIRE ARMS"

    "on a street near the Capitol"
    "not charged with being on Capitol grounds"
    "arrived in Washington after the riots"

    ONE guy was charged with a firearm on Capitol GROUNDS.
     
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    And ... ???

    Look at all the deadly weapons on that list. I didn't even highlight all the flagpoles many of which had sharp tips. Knives, bats, baton's, toxic sprays, tomahawks ... even a metal whip that could take a person down to the bone. :shock:

    But to your point, your crew talks about lack of weapons. Well DC is a very restricted town and yet there were many cache's found near, and presumably ready, the Capitol grounds. Not to mention pipe bombs? TRraitor tRumps folks weren't playing.
     
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    And still, no one was-
    Ill wait here while you run down the strawmen. Im sure many of the other posters are impressed
     
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    Nope. He wasnt in the Capitol. Merely the "grounds" around the Capitol.
     
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    That’s disingenuous, he was at the door on his way in when he was disabled by a dose of mace from Capitol Police.

    But, the point is, there were plenty and a wide variety of lethal weapons carried by the insurrectionists.
     
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    You just make this **** up as you go along.

    download (justice.gov)
     
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    No, I gave you a list of people and the weapons they were carrying and indicted for.
    OK, sounds like Ibraham lied. :wtf:

    He's not who I was talking about. I was talking about, Guy Wesley Reffitt; had a handgun. About 2/3rds of the way down my list.

    Guy Reffitt: Capitol rioter turned in by son gets 87 months in prison
     
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    Thats from the Justice department not Ibrahim. And Guy-
    ".....but he did not personally go inside."
    Office of Public Affairs | Texas Man Sentenced to 87 Months in Prison for Actions Related to Capitol Breach | United States Department of Justice
     
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    That's what I said yesterday, they maced his ass as he was going through the door. Big tough guy that he is, he went back out and sat out the insurrection. But, I guess being a day late and a dollar short is better than nothing. :)
     
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    Yet no one was ever arrested regarding the pipe bombs.
     
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    All are impromptu weapons. The sort of things one picks up if one thinks one's self under attack not if they plan on going to war with armed police officers.
     
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    And.........is that significant ?
     
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    And that makes bringing pipe bombs to DC OK? :wtf:

    It was an insurrection, tRaitor tRump called his people to DC and then sicked them on the Capitol Building, the broke in, they destroyed property, defaced the building, threatened the lives of Congress and the VP; to stop the certification of EC ballots.

    I'm not nickpicking every little detail about it. It was an INSURRECTION. <-period There is no way in hell tRaitor tRump is fit to be President of These United States. And "I" really don't giveAshit how he's kept from becoming President as long as he is. All the RW obfuscation of what tRaitor tRump's supporters did to the most beautiful public building in the world could ever change "MY" opinion.

    I can't do anything to keep tRaitor tRump's supporters from believing the way they do. It's sad to see my countrymen taken in by such a low life POS loser like tRaitor tRump.

    IMHO he's a criminal that tried to end Government By the People, if he were condemned to the deepest darkest prison cell for the rest of his miserable life is exponentially to good for him.

    Good bye! :bye:
     
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    Considering they happened before Trumps speech and before the riot. And the solitary gun charge was three hours after the riot it would seem that including them with the riot is at least a bit disingenuous.
     
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    Nope. Didn't happen sorry. You are quite welcome to believe what ever horse **** you want. We have no idea who planted the pipe bombs or his political affiliation. The were not connect as far as anyone can prove to the riot. Nor was the one gun charge. You avoid details because the truth that these details reveal is utterly alien to your preferred narrative ie your valueless opinion. Just as you ignore the attempt of BLM rioters to burn the National Cathedral and possibly the white house.
     
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