Joe Biden-the insurrectionist

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  1. fullmetaljack

    fullmetaljack Well-Known Member

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    Since that doesn’t happen, you are just reinforcing the fact that Republicans oppose a “multi cultural” society which basically means they are racist. No one said anything about immigration, legal or illegal.
     
  2. Turtledude

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    horsecrap-I do oppose letting people in who are being let in to vote against capitalism, constitutional rights and other things that made this country great and which the woke turds in the multicultural movement claim are "white values"
     
  3. fullmetaljack

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    So you would be against the Cuban wet feet/dry feet immigration policy ?

    I never saw anything on an immigration form about voting against capitalism. Maybe you could post a link ?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    why do democrats want these illegals to come into our country?
     
  5. Xyce

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    Where are you getting this 3 million figure from? Please cite your source.
     
  6. Pro_Line_FL

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    By saying that you pretty much admit you were ok letting in 3 million Cubans in because they'll vote Republican, and you project that same mindset on Dems claiming they are also motivated by such partisanship, even though everyone knows illegals today can't vote for anyone.

    Having said that, the voting habits of US Citizen Latinos are not as different vs Non-Hispanic voters as people think (44% pull for GOP).

    Conclusion: People who claim "they let them in to vote for Dems" are paddling conspiracies. Of course by now it has been repeated so often that lot of people think its true (even seemingly educated ones), and only critical thinkers question still question things like that

    Because living conditions in Cuba were as bad as in crime ridden Honduras today.

    He admitted he opposes immigration only when he assumes the people coming in would not vote for his political party, hence he was ok letting 3 million illegals in from Cuba, because they vote Republican. Additionally he thinks everyone else thinks along the same lines. That's what partisan politics does to people.

    Using that logic, they'd be perfectly fine with the current situation if they assumed the newcomers voted Republican. Of course we know they can't vote for anyone. Only Cubans were given automatic citizenships.
     
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  7. Turtledude

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    you seem unable to understand the difference between what happened years ago and what happens now.
    I want to eliminate illegal immigration
     
  8. Pro_Line_FL

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    No, not at all

    Yea.....unless they vote Republican of course.
     
  9. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No it is not. Cubans were actually persecuted. Most of them were entrepreneurs and there lives were upended by a nasty Marxist dictator who confiscated livelihoods.
    Our illegal invaders are just fleeing their own poverty brought on by the rulers they put in office. Work is not a reason for refugee status. So many express their gratitude to "Joe Biden". He is their "golden calf" and American citizens will pay for their livelihood.
     
  10. Pro_Line_FL

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    Most were entrepreneurs.... LOL. The upper class were the first to leave of course, and they flew 1st class to Miami, but after that the majority were unskilled and just wanted a better life in US, as opposed to live in poverty in Cuba. Its as simple as that.
     
  11. fullmetaljack

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    Would you care to answer the question or are we just going to leave it at, "republicans are basically racist because their current stance opposes a multi cultural society" ?
     
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    We do with the laws we have and the POEs we have that dot all across the landscape. What we don't have are armed military/police vehicles at every intersection, do we?

    But the point is that we have always tried to exclude people different from us. it is the same, tired argument being presented today as it was in the 19th century.
     
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    nope, all illegal immigration. the vast majority of illegal immigrants come here to suck on the public teats. the odds favor the GOP to ban all illegal immigration
     
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    I oppose illegal immigration. I want to stop it completely
     
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    Cool story bro.

    Its already banned, but if they need to change things, then why don't they do it? I told you the other day what they could do in short term and long term. They are in control of the House, so its not like they can't act.

    It seems obvious that keeping the problem serves them better because they can keep regurgitating the talking points about "open border", and "they come here to vote for Dems" and "vast majority come here for welfare bennies". Its a valuable campaigning tool, which is why they were quick to kill the 2012 reform, which would have built a wall, and added all kinds of measures to shut it down tight.

    IMO a wall won't work, but I'm ok building one and its not like we can't afford it, but the money needs to be allocated. I'm ok with whatever stops the crying, whining and hand-wringing.
     
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    you ok with the offspring of illegals getting automatic citizenship?
     
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    When you can't beat em' .... pull out the racism card.

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    Its what the Construction says. A minute ago you were claiming they come here to vote against the Constitution, and here you are raving against it.
     
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    I think that part of the constitution needs to be changed. the children should not automatically get a better status than their parents
     
  20. Pro_Line_FL

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    Ok, so anyone born in US would have to apply for citizenship when they turn 18, and if not, then..........wait, what then?
     
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    you dont' read what I wrote. if your parents are citizens you are a citizen. if your parents are here illegally, you don't get automatic citizenship
     
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    Well, there is a process to amending the Constitution.
     
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    The VAST majority of illegal immigration starts off as legal. Do you want to stop people from coming in legally?
     
  24. fullmetaljack

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    Then hire several thousand more immigration judges so deportations can be adjudicated, reform the quota system for immigration, hire more civil servants to process immigration applications and reduce the 8-10 year waiting list, and revoke all “special” immigration exceptions like the Cuban wet/dry law.

    Go……..
     
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    Biden’s gross negligence of failing to protect Americans and America is treasonous. That is a president’s first duty.
     
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