Nikki's taking off the gloves.

Biden had no difficulty reversing other Trump decisions, but he chose to join in this one. He therefore shares the dishonor with Trump.

 

Had Biden told the House Dems he wanted to move, that could have been easily overcome.

 

1. No labels will not be that productive. Currently, they are in 12 states. That's it. And it is not likely they will be in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia. In the states they are in, I doubt they will get 2% of the popular vote, most of whom will come from Republicans or right-leaning independents, but not so much from Democrats.
2. Yes, got the first name wrong. Thanx, but the point is that there will far more Chris Sununus out there than there will be Jack Hays going to the independent vote.
3. Not really given the current state of the GOP right now. And currently, the way US politics works today, it is about party power over country, not country over party. So, they will gravitate towards Trump and ride the coattails of money and power. That is all that matters in politics, especially the GOP politics as the Texas GOP has a civil war within itself as well.

 

Yes and the democrats are inventing more as they go along.

 

It was an agreement, not an EO for Christ's sake. Agreements, especially international agreements, carry the full faith and credit of the government. If Biden tried to negate the deal, that would have been far worse since Trump already withdrew some 20k forces, most of whom were in the provinces where the Taliban was active in. It also brought undue criticism of the US government since we would not honor a deal, so why would other governments cooperate with the US government on any issue mutual to both countries?

If Biden honored the deal, then he is in league with Trump negotiating with Terrorists and should have been more prepared, if possible. It was hastily done, but the US government had no control over the Americans who were there as volunteers or just visisting. The Taliban took full advantage of that, and why the Afghan government fell as quickly as it did. Most of the foreign service community did not believe it would take a year, Those in the foreign service field believed it would take weeks, like 2, once we were gone or going.

 

When all else fails, I will vote simply to have a clear conscience when confronting the consequences of the election.

 

The Democrats are the minority in the House. The GOP has a 2 vote majority, and control the committees in the House. Thus, the Dems in the House do not have any negotiating power. Any bill must pass both Houses of Legislature, and the Dems control the Senate with Mitch McConnell holding sway for about 35 Republicans in the Senate.

 

It was never ratified by the Senate, so it was, in fact just an EO. Biden voluntarily joined in the dishonor.

 

There were, and are, Republican votes for a border deal. If the Dems were willing to vote with those Repubs there was a deal to be made.

 

It was not a treaty, which must be ratified by the Senate. It was a peace deal, which falls under the authority of the Executive Branch. We never ratified the peace deal, the Paris Accords with the North Vietnamese and we never ratified in the Senate the Camp David Accords or even the Oslo Accords.

 

But if the Speaker of the House says the bill cannot be brought to a vote, then no vote can happen in the House. See the problem here?

So which party is Mike Johnson belong to again?

 

I am sure you will vote. The problem with the GOP and for Trump is not whether you vote third party, but whether they will vote period. That is the issue with the GOP if Trump is the nominee come November regardless of the trials he is facing.

There is a small chance, a slim one, through party rules where Trump is no longer eligible to become the nominee if Trump is convicted one of the criminal trials that Trump is facing. But that would have to be settled no later than the end of the Republican National Convention.

 

Yes, and . . . ? It was a dishonorable agreement Biden could have easily repudiated but he did not, thus joining in Trump's dishonor.

 

Bills can be brought to the floor by majority vote.

 

Not voting is one of my options.

 

So you believe the WH is trying to sabotage its own agenda? House Repubs are simultaneously demanding something be done about the border and preventing something from being done. They're impeaching Mayorkas and bashing Biden over immigration. There's no upside for them if a deal is struck, a big upside for the admin and the country.........hence the Repub's obstruction.

 

Not really. The bill has to be introduced, and if you look at the House Rules, the current one, you need a majority to do so. The problem with the Dems is that they are not in the majority, and Mike Johnson has been very selective of when new business can be brought up, ie indroduce the bill. Most representatives are not going to vote for a complex bill that needs further examination. It will be voted and approved by voice count to go into committee. Once in committee, the committee chair has sway of whether there will be hearings or not. And the Dems are not in control of the ocmmittees. Hence, no vote will happen.

 

The US Adversaries would have had a field day with that one and caused discord/chaos even amongst our allies after they were told to withdraw. Would not have worked internationally,

 

On the border the WH did not want to concede what the House Repubs wanted. The WH hoped public pressure would force the House Repubs to back down. That did not happen. The WH hesitated long enough for Trump to seize the issue from the outside.

 

Nonsense. It was our departure that dismayed allies.

 

the left constantly brings this up in an effort to virtue signal, and for a far more sinister purpose-to balkanize the USA into warring special interest groups based on race, ethnicity and often gender confusion

 

There were/are enough pro-deal Repubs to make a majority with pro-deal Dems.

 

that's cute but silly. try again

 

socialism sounds great until you run out of other peoples money.

 

But if Speaker Johnson does not want it, it does not happen. And there are not enough Republicans who want the deal because it is far better politically to criticize than to solve. It gets them the political donations to run for their reelections and so forth.