7 October testimonies strike major blow to Israeli narrative

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  1. politicalcenter

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    Yep, was thinking more along the lines of pseudo Muslims like Hamas.
     
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    Tell the people of Rwanda and Ethiopia and South Sudan, how peace-loving they are.
     
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    Relatively speaking.
     
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    This is true. Of course its the only missiles they can get their hands on, so we can't know for sure if they would avoid targetting civillians otherwise. On the one hand, they probably have bloodlust against israelis and would be fine with killing civilians, but on the other hand, if they could destroy military assets, that would help them in their struggle, so maybe they would.
     
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    Do you understand that humans can be deceived through artful propaganda?

    Do you place any stock in the musings of Bill Casey of CIA back in 1981? That when everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts?
     
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    Hamas videoed and published themselves breaking into Israel, murdering people and taking hostages. Israeli survivors gave testimony, medical examiners and first responders gave testimonies, all to the same end. The only make believe is making believe it isn't true. The Israeli government has much more evidence. They have given private showings to the press, rather than made public out of respect for the sensitivities of the victims families. Hamas members captured by the IDF have also given testimony of their conduct and motivations.
     
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    Regurgitation of falsehoods does not make them become true. More, some people are able to view the proverbial Big Picture (things in historical context), whilst others are not.
     
  8. Injeun

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    Which of these two things should not have been: the dissolution of the nation of Israel followed by the scattering of the Jews two thousand years ago....or the restoration, reconstitution, and rebirth of the nation of Israel almost two thousand years later? The God of the Jews gave them the land, then he took it away, and now he has given it back. It is theirs prophetically, ancestrally, and legally. I think it is a miracle by the hand of God. And that it is proof that God is real and that he is the God of Israel.
     
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    The "god of Jews" only gives the land to observant Jews that follow the torah. All those secular folk living there have no rights at all to be there other than through military conquest and brutalisation of the native populations and the hasidic Jews will tell you that to your face.

    Besides, it is not theirs through ancestry either since Ashkenazi cannot trace their roots to biblical israel, unlike the Sephardi.

    Which is why the godfather of Zionism, Theodore Herzl (an Ashkenazi) pretended to be Sephardi because he knew that Ashkenazi would never be able to lay claim through ancestry.

    But enough of this, let's get back on topic and not open up that little piece of disinformation again, thanks.
     
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    And yet the nation of Israel is undeniably once again since 1948.
     
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    Indeed and many Jewish folk (1/4 million) have left since October 7, buying up property in Cyprus and Greece because they know that just claiming to be "Jewish" gives you absolutely no claim over the land.

    Now if they were Torah observant they may have such a claim in the "god of the Jews" eyes but I'd hasten to guess, most are not
     
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    They aren't prisoners. They are free to come and go.
     
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    And Israelis are leaving in droves despite IDF occupying all of Gaza. Looks like they either strongly disagree with netandyahoo or they are fearful of what the future holds
     
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    Unlike the open-air prison Palestinians are placed in.
     
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    They make their own bed.
     
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    Who knows. Many Israeli's hold dual citizenships.
     
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    and yet
    1/4 million have still left since October 7.
     
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    So? If they fear a greater war, who can blame them. It remains the nation of Israel. And Hamas is being routed out of Gaza. Israel isn't going anywhere, if that's what you are hoping.
     
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    It's like Israel isn't really their home.
     
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    It's like Dave chappelle states most eloquently about A L I E N S:



    You know Dave been drinking that space juice
     
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    There is literally video evidence we have all seen that screams otherwise.

    See hamas was thankfully dumb enough to GoPro their actions that day!
     
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    Can you give me the names of the 40 beheaded babies?
     
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    Bringing up the 40 beheaded babies is the dumbest counter argument that you could have possibly come up with.

    yes there were dead babies. But the 40 beheaded babies came from one journalist who came up with the headline.

    So yes, babies in fact died I don't know their names nor can I tell you the names of the victims in a very clear video of Hamas terrorist using an RPG to indiscriminately fire at a civilian SUV.

    Nor can I tell you the name of the victim of which Hamas was trying to decapitate using a garden hoe.

    But I do know the name of the one girl at the rave of which they killed and then paraded her twisted body around to the great celebration of all the Gaza civilians in the area. She was not an IDF soldier in case you were wondering. Did you want to know her name or were you just asking stupid questions?

    sadly I've seen these videos and more and I've seen the images of dead babies. It was gross and disgusting and I can't get these images out of my head

    Don't argue using memes fella, I ain't the one
     
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    Nope - It was repeated by every major news outlet in the U.S. Biden insisted that he personally saw the photos of 40 beheaded babies - twice. The Israeli prime minister's spokesperson repeated it as well.

    This was one of many things said to dehumanize the Palestinians and allow the genocide and ethnic cleansing to start.
    I know. Israel supporters might not want to be bothered with such things as facts and reality.

    The SUV you mention was part of the Israeli Occupational Forces. It was a valid military target. Soldiers sent to attack Hamas were killed.

    I know. Israel supporters can't be bothered to look up the names of babies, even when there were only two.

    Mila Cohen, 10 months
    S. Abu Rashed, emergency birth, died soon after.

    Wow! Was that really too hard?
    Because it never happened. Go back look at the video. There is no decapitation. Only a guy tapping someone else with a garden hoe. And then everything is conveniently hidden behind a counter.

    Think about it. Does it even make sense?
    What happened to Shani Louk's body was pretty despicable. No one really knows how exactly she died - Israel has done almost no investigations. She could have been killed in crossfire or shot deliberately.
    Pictures of the two babies killed on October 7 were never released. I don't know what you saw, but it wasn't them. Scores of pictures of dead Gazan babies are available for your perusal. Might find a couple hundred if you sign up for the 72 virgins run by terrorists on Telegram.
    Wasn't a meme. It was used by Israeli supporters to support genocide.

    Also your post supported the idea that 40 babies were beheaded. However, you didn't likely know this because you didn't likely read the article.
     
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