Johnson Intended To Stop Ukraine Aid, Not Pass An Immigration Bill

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  1. Hey Now

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    There was no senate vote on the actual bipartisan bill....Mitch blocked it because he knew it would blow up the House, genius. Dishonesty is in your wheelhouse. Projecting isn't a cloak.
     
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    Well what a error you've made ............

    Trump shutdown the Government for 35 days as well as under his watch there was 2 other government Shutdowns

    None under Biden

    The longest government shutdown in U.S. history came to an end Friday after President Donald Trump and Congress agreed to temporarily reopen shuttered federal agencies without providing any money for the president’s border wall.
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    Please show where President Biden was laughed at on the world stage . Unlike Trump Biden doesn't need to boast

    UNITED NATIONS (AP) — President Donald Trump got some laughter when he addressed world leaders on Tuesday. It wasn’t intentional.

    The president was highlighting U.S. gains under his watch as he opened his address to the U.N. General Assembly. He said the American economy was “booming like never before” and that his administration has accomplished more in less than two years than almost any other administration.

    His boast elicited laughter from the scores of heads of state and delegates in the audience for the speech.
     
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  3. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't see how that helps the "Trump is helping Putin" argument.
     
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  4. flyboy56

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    We know that.
     
  5. dharbert

    dharbert Well-Known Member

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    That is enough people to replace the population of my city every 2 1/2 days. That is insane.
     
  6. The Mello Guy

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    Clearly republicans just want a war against Russia so they can live vicariously through their suffering.
     
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    A few of them do, but the "we hate Russia"/"Trump russia collusion" is entirely a result of the Obama administration and the witch democrats wanted to elect in 2016.
     
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  8. Grey Matter

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    Meh, this s has been in plain sight since crossfire hurricane and Helsinki: Rosenberg his ass already!
     
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  9. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    So why was trump sending ukraine weapons?
     
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  10. dharbert

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    Trump approved a $39 million sale of anti-tank weapons to Ukraine in 2019. Notice I mentioned SALE, not just giving them hundreds of billions of dollars in aid and weaponry with no guarantee of payback. Ever.
     
  11. MiaBleu

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    You nailed it. A vote for Trump is a vote for Putin. How tragic that things have fallen this far ... and for what purpose?? POWER .....and the abuse of it.
    Trump acts like Putins surrogates each time Putin does something dreadful.
    Preventing aid to Ukraine is giving Putin what he wants. So WHO are the Trumpian working for?? The US or Putin?? And WHY?? Johnson is yet to do something that would help the country. His actions are all to help and cater to Trump....who caters to Putin.
    Johnson and Trump are making Putins case for him. Most of the developed world sees this dynamic and is concerned. (and more leery of the USA)
     
  12. MiaBleu

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    How on earth can Ukraine "guarantee" anything right now?? They are fighting to survive. How can anyone put a monetary value on that ???
    There are times one has to help......because it is the right thing to do ......and expect noting in return. Not every darn thibng is a transaction when it comes to human survival.
     
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    We have illegals pouring across the border by the millions, millions of homeless, millions of hungry people, rampant crime, right here in the United States. So how, exactly, is giving Ukraine $300 billion dollars in a failed attempt to secure their country going to help the people of the United States?
     
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    The Privileged Class benefits from chaos.
     
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    That thinking right there is why we are currently $30+ trillion dollars in debt.....
     
  16. The Mello Guy

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    So it’s ok to support war with Ukraine and Russia but only if we make a buck off it?
    That isn’t true anyway, we gave them millions under trump.

    Lawmakers approved another significant chunk of aid in 2017 -- the first year of Trump's term, giving Ukraine $446 million. In 2018, that slipped to $350 million.
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/money-to-ukraine.amp
     
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    Ukraine is the same lie we heard during the Vietnam War. If we don’t defeat the commies there they will attack the U.S. We hear the same threat about Russia coming here if we don’t stop them. I’m still waiting for the commies to attack the U.S.
     
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  18. dharbert

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    $446 million isn't even half of a single billion. Under Biden, we have so far given Ukraine hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars. Not even remotely comparable.
     
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    LOL, this post is comedy gold. Especially since you swallow every lie fed to you in Comer Pyle's failed impeachment inquiry like candy.
     
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    America is fighting to survive under the weight of trying to take care of the entire world.
     
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    It sounds like it's time for Atlas to shrug.....
     
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    Weird justification for making up stuff. Why was trump trying to start a war with russia?
     
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    Nothing I said was false. Trump approved a $39 million dollar sale of Javelin anti-tank weapons to Ukraine in 2019. SALE, not just give away.
     
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    War only exists to profit from, no matter who is starting it.
     
  25. The Mello Guy

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    And gave away millions lol
     

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