Putin threatens West with nuclear weapons if troops come to Ukraine

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  1. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    The massive military contracts to refill our stock goes into many of the lefts and rights pockets. War hawks don't care if there is a win is even possible. Actually, a perpetual draw is ideal for making money. Merely how many weapons can we get into the hands of our proxies to kill each other is their win!
     
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    You do realize that Russia has held and dug in, the areas they deem as Russian territory. Ukraine has not been able to put a dent, at the expense of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian lives.
     
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    That's not entirely true but, it's Russia that is more vulnerable to a war of attrition. Putin is facing a strong head wind at home trying to keep his army supplied and maned. True, it's been a costly war ... THAT RUSSIA STARTED. Putin thought he was picking on a weakling that would fold at the first punch, he couldn't have been more wrong. Ukraine is resolved to stay in the fight until they win.
     
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    okay...so...still not been nuked...??

    s'pose that's another red line gone by the wayside.....next red line please....
     
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    Depressing, making money off death..
     
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    Well it is until its not.. May wake up one if theses morning to it happened, then what..
     
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    Hiya, you well..:)

    ah...I'd wash the sleep from my eyes and stumble on the train to work thinking....wow...that was a weird dream...!

    ah...one is nuking anyone...seriously....nuking people's bad for business!!
     
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    Correction.. It was started when the US interfered in Ukraine's elections and overthrew the democratically elected government, which WE (THE US) installed a US friendly government that cause the inevitable actions.
     
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    Never happened.
    ibid
     
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    You might not think... However much of the rest of the world see's exactly what took place...But hey... Don't let your lying eye's get in the way of your own reality..

     
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    Ya that's a big saying in Japan :)
     
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    LMAO FU$% the EU? Hey, I love her already :)

    Good find there Brah..
     
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    That's true, in fact a recording of the phone conversation at the time is now in
    the public domain, as Victoria Nuland stated we would remove the existing
    government and named who the next President would be, it's amazing how
    she knew in advance who would win the 'election'.

    The 'regime change' was done in Feb 2014 and the total cost of the covert
    operation was around 5 billion dollars. It included the cost of entertainment
    during the demonstrations, fireworks and snipers.
     
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    In 2022 Biden said: "The Russian military has begun a brutal assault on the people of Ukraine without provocation, without justification, without necessity."

    That was about the same as was said at the start of the Vietnam War, when a similar
    series of events, the CIA covert operations had attacked a coastal radar station and
    some Vietnamese gunboats responded.

    The US resolution passed by both houses of Congress stated:

    'Begun and held at the City of Washington on Tuesday, the seventh day of January, one thousand nine hundred and sixty-four


    Joint Resolution
    To promote the maintenance of international peace and security in southeast Asia.

    Whereas naval units of the Communist regime in Vietnam, in violation of the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and of international law, have deliberately and repeatedly attacked United States naval vessels lawfully present in international waters, and have thereby created a serious threat to international peace; and

    Whereas these attackers are part of deliberate and systematic campaign of aggression that the Communist regime in North Vietnam has been waging against its neighbors and the nations joined with them in the collective defense of their freedom; and

    Whereas the United States is assisting the peoples of southeast Asia to protest their freedom and has no territorial, military or political ambitions in that area, but desires only that these people should be left in peace to work out their destinies in their own way: Now, therefore be it...'


    As usual the US tried to bring peace to an area where there was no war, and needed a huge tonnage of B-52 bombs to achieve, or not achieve it. And defense of freedom.
     
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    It's NOT exactly the same and Ukraine is NOT Southeast Asia.

    Other than that the two instances are ...

    ... completely different.
     
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    Very similar -
    in both cases the CIA covert operations initiated the conflicts
    though in Vietnam the war was easier to start.

    In Vietnam the CIA ran a few months of cross border raids
    and on Aug 2 1964 after firing 3 inch recoilless rifles at a
    coastal radar station, one bullet hit a panel on the USS
    Maddox, and that was all the evidence needed to start
    the Vietnam War:

    Vietnam USS Maddox bullet heard around the world 25pc.png
     
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    1 bullet led to 3 million dead Vietnamese.

    In the case of Ukraine, again it was the CIA, directed by Victoria Nuland
    Assistant Secretary of State, who kicked it off by removing the elected
    President and cabinet of Ukraine, and getting her own choice of people
    installed.

    Steadily over the years shells kept arriving, 3 or 4 a day fired into
    Donetsk, and neo Nazi paramilitary gunmen killed Russian-speaking
    people in Donetsk and Luhansk and finally after Joe Biden got
    300 million dollars in ammunition and weapons sent over to Kyiv
    and the bombardment increased a lot, Feb 19th was a day of heavy
    bombardment, and then on Feb 24th Vladmir Putin made good on his
    promise to protect the population and he gradually moved armored
    vehicles, field guns and soldiers in.
     
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    Yessir, 20+ years of undeclared wars all over the globe is peace, in yours and the Pentagon's collective tortured minds. Up is down and the sky is green and grass is blue. Got it!
     
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    Sorry, that ain't gonna happen. Numerous elected and appointed officials have committed perjury before Congress and on video record. Mike Pompeo cheerfully proclaimed that his agency lies, cheats and steals. All of Congress in formation urinated on the Fourth Amendment and the rest of the USC by way of the USA Patriot Act and other illegitimate legislative actions.

    Nobody has been punished for that. Many get great reviews in their personnel files, many have been promoted. Consider Anthony Fauci and Fizer. Ain't gonna happen sir.
     

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