Trump ordered to pay over $350M for business fraud

The banks don't need disclaimers. They are fiduciaries.

 

How do they determine how much a property is bringing in each month? How do they determine occupancy?

 

DB makes their own assessment valuation. James should be disbarred. No victims. No damages. No fraud. Just a manufactured politically motivated "crime" to GET TRUMP.

 

They do their homework. They look at trends and potential.

 

You are basically saying there is no such thing as mortgage fraud because banks are supposed to make independent assessments

 

I have never been involved in a since commercial real estate transaction where the banks did not require a ton of documents and then further supporting documents and I have been through about 30.

How many commercial loan transactions have you been part of?

 

No that is not what I am saying. I have told you repeatedly what I'm saying.

 

My experience is irrelevant. The banks do their homework. They are fiduciaries.

 

You are simply wrong, I have posted numerous sources which you have ignored.

I have explained how commercial valuations work and posted more sources which you have ignored.

I have posted legal statute for what mortgage fraud entails which you have ignored.

And you sum it up perfectly by saying you don’t have any experience (or evidence) for your beliefs but you still feel you are right.

trump has lost this case
He will lose the appeal

And you will simply still be wrong.

You win though as I am done wasting my time and allowing you to repeat the same bs over 50 some pages. Feel free to have the last word

 

And I have explained that in this case DB because of their fiduciary responsibility determined valuation, risk, and interest rate. The loan was granted and repaid with interest on time. No victims, no damages, no fraud.

 

DB did their homework as they are obligated to do. DB made the loan which was repaid on time with agreed upon interest. James doesn’t work for the bank.

 

Nope.
By Trump greatly inflating his net worth he got better loan terms and saved MILLIONS on interest..

 

DB made the determination on the terms of the loan. No victims, no damages, no fraud. Only a politically motivated prosecution of a politically manufactured “crime”.

 

If what you say is true DB would have sued Trump for damages. They did not. DB is not a victim, DB did not incur damages, no fraud.

 

LOL. Biden sets up 20 different shell companies who 9 years later have yet to produce any product or service and have no employees or even board members. The only money flowing into any of the 20 companies comes from the CCP, Putin and other Russia oligarchs, corrupt Ukrainian executives, and various other corrupt foreign adversarial countries. Money bounces around between the 20 fake companies. Then when it finally exits it flows to the Biden family. In spite of dozens of complaints, whistle blowers coming forth, a mountain of video and other evidentiary self-incriminating personal computer data, a video confession by the POTUS himself before taking office to a pool of respected journalists and no real investigation by the DOJ after 9 years. Statutes of limitations running out. Nothing to look at here folks!!!!!

Meanwhile Left-Wing DNC aligned DA's and AG's who campaign on platforms of "elect me, I will find something to convict that evil Trump on", get elected and find the most nit-picking charge to trump up, even though no complaint was or has ever been filed which would necessitate a case even be opened and the left wants everyone to believe in their integrity.

They then whine about no one taking any of it seriously, "Why won't they do something about that evil Trump? Whaaahhhahaaaa!!!! We found something to accuse him with. Why isn't the electorate taking the charges seriously? Just because no one in history has ever been charged for giving their own estimates."

 

Do catch up,Trump saved over 150 million in interest by fraudulently inflating his net worth.

 

DB who made the loan and was repaid in full, on time, with interest does not agree. Why would DB not sue for damages? Because DB was not damaged.

 

The statute Trump was charged under doesn't require victims, only wrongdoing.


Disgorgement explains quite simply why Trump landed where he did after committing financial fraud.


disgorgement | Wex | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

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Disgorgement is a remedy requiring a party who profits from illegal or wrongful acts to give up any profits they made as a result of that illegal or ...

 

Then arrest him — oh wait, you can’t because it all just ties back to Hunter and not Joe — which is why you people try and say “Biden” or “Biden Family” because you hope, desperately, that you can fool someone in to thinking you have anything on Joe Biden.

But the laughable attempt to deflect is priceless

No one cares what you believe

No one cares what you take seriously

He wasn’t charged for giving estimates, he was charged — and convicted — of inflating his assets including cash holdings, of lying on financial disclosures and having his staff edit reports to receive higher valuations.

Facts are why you lost this trial
Facts are why you will lose on appeal, he might shave some off the judgement

Why don’t you take a few moments to read the case law behind this outcome.

 

The law is a consumer protection law. It was never intended to be applied to transactions involving highly sophisticated financial lenders such as those at DB. There were no victims, there were no damages, there was no fraud. DB did not sue for damages. This is a perversion of the rule of law carried out within the New York justice system. It should be overturned on appeal in the state appeals court and if not at the Supreme Court for Constitutional reasons as Professor Dershowitz shows above.

 

Sorry Facts are Facts ......... not Rhetoric

Well obviously not with a $355 million judgement against him

 

You just hold onto that fantasy. Hopefully it keeps you warm at night.

 

There is a fantasy of a fair justice system in New York.

 

Why stop there? You should insist that they be set on fire! They had the temerity to apply the law and hold a routine liar accountable!

You are utterly without a valid point.

 

Huh?