Dementia? Are you kidding me? Joe hit it OUT OF THE PARK on SOTU

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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do not have to vote for either one of them. You may feel obligated to do so, but I do not.

    The economy under Trump far exceeds what we have now. There was no financial crisis (and no wars) until Biden came along. We did not have mayors of the large cities complaining about all the illegals. We did not have nearly as many illegals murdering US citizens or attacking policemen.

    Trump has yet to be convicted in a criminal court. Until that takes place he is innocent.

    Your strongest economy in the word is suffering from inflation and the people at the bottom of the economic ladder are suffering. Even if the inflation goes away, which it hasn't, the effects of inflation continue to linger. That same inflation also affects the rich. They effectively have 20% less money to spend which impacts the rest of the population.

    The "guy who avoided the crisis" had more deaths under his watch than his predecessor and the 'guy who avoided the crisis" had a vaccine.

    I have not seen Biden do a single thing that will improve the economy and neither does the majority of the rest of the population.

    I cannot see a single thing that is better under Biden's watch and the polls support my opinion.
     
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  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Welcome to the NNN club.
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  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Welcome to the NNN club.
    He destroyed the right, AND any idea he's not up to the job.
    Deal with it.
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  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    He took one, last night. passed with flying colors.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    He wasn't yelling and screaming. It was feisty.

    He dispelled the 'doddering old fool' narrative, and destroyed the right while doing it.

    Deal with it, and....

    Quit spinning.
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not directly, but I doubt alabama would have ruled on IVF but for Dobbs.
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, right. and if you argue 'pandemic', no, because Biden's post pandemic numbers are still better than Trump's pre-pandemic numbers.

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    You mean this article?
    https://time.com/magazine/us/5936018/february-15th-2021-vol-197-no-5-u-s/

    However,. that is definitely not the narrative in the article.

    Either that is the article, or your article doesn't exist.

    Or, post a link to what you are thinking of.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Trump added $7.8 trillion to the national debt, just ask Nikki Haley.

    Inflation is world wide caused by the pandemic.

    So, you're saying Biden caused inflation world wide?

    Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, got it.

    No, what Biden did was tame inflation better than most countries.

    And now there are some 46,000 infrastructure projects across America.

    Joe is rebuilding America. Trump paid lip service to infrastructure, and with the house and senate under his thumb,. he couldn't get done and biden got a bipartisan bill passed in his first 100 days in office.

    Biden gets sh*t done.

    Trump is just chaos.
     
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    But for Donald Trump, most who died would still be alive, the 140 injured would not have been injured and the 1200 incarcerated would still be free citizens.

    President Trump is practically, and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day [Jan 6], no question about it. The people that stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their President. And, having that belief was a foreseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements, conspiracy theories, and reckless hypole, which the defeated President kept shouting into the largest megaphone on planet earth.--Mitch McConnell

    The juggernaut of rage experienced by the rioters came from somewhere.

    From where do you suppose it came?

    They were chanting 'stop the steal'. 'hang mike pence', and in their rage, people died and hundreds injured.

    Who, do you honestly believe, gave them this idea, which erupted into the rage?

    Who, might I ask?

    Could it be Donald Trump, who.....

    ,...inculcated 'Democrats Stole The election" in to the minds of his base, in rally after rally, for a year or so, prior to the first ballot ever being cast?

    Hell, in August of 2020, BEFORE the first ballot was cast, Trump proclaimed "the only way democrats can win is if they rig the election', which he still repeats, to this day.

    ANd you think one fleeting mention of 'peaceful and patriotic' is going to get Trump off the hook?in a speech where Trump shouted 'fight' 20 times, he mentioned 'peacefully and patriotically' only once. A teaspoon of goodwill doesn't get a truckload of ill will off the hook. Did we not witness him, Mo Brooks, Giuliani, whip them up into a frenzy and send them off to the capitol, to 'fight like hell or they might lose their country'?

    With all that rage building up like a volcano, what could possibly go wrong? Hmmmm?

    As McConnell proclaimed, Trump is ultimately responsible for 1/6, and his day in court will come, and I'm pretty sure he will be convicted. We shall see but you really need to stop defending this man, he is not your friend.
     
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    now you're into weasel word territory.

    Dismissed.
     
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    Millions of jobs lost during the pandemic. Millions of people returning to the same jobs after the pandemic.

    Do you really want to claim job gain numbers as a big deal? How else did you expect it to work out?

    Lets take a look at another set of numbers. Look at the unemployment rate in Feb 2020 just prior to the pandemic compared to Feb 2024. Also look at the labor participation rate prior to the pandemic in February 2020 compared to February 2024. Both sets of numbers are more favorable for Trump.
    Civilian labor force participation rate (bls.gov)
     
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    You sound so excited and relieved that the man can bellow out a well rehearsed speech someone is feeding him. Now that the left has "proven" to themselves he is "ok"....I'm willing to bet they want him in full campaign mode with press conferences, on talk shows and speaking daily to the American people. Can't wait to see it....
     
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    Trump!
     
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    Assuming we believe that, whether you vote for them or not, you are voting for one of them. If you dislike Biden more than you dislike Trump and don't vote, that's the same as voting for Biden. So no... there is no way to avoid it.

    BTW, it IS a moral obligation as a citizen to vote. One of the few things this country asks of you to do for the privilege of living in a democratic Republic.

    You continuously defending nonsense like this only makes it pretty obvious that you're looking for an excuse to vote for Trump. Take responsibility for your words! Just vote for him, and spare us the struggles you are having with yourself.
     
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    By not voting for either, I send a message. That message is stronger than the message I send by voting for either of them. I did not think it was that complicated, but I guess it is for some people.
    I don't need an excuse. I will make my choice with no apologies. Unlike you, who will blindly vote for Biden for the sole reason of not being Trump.
     
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    The riot happened to short circuit Republican challenges in the Senate. Qanon was an FBI false flag operation beginning to end.
     
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    You would know all about weaseling for certain but your admission that having to counter the truth is too much trouble for you is accepted.
     
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    Is that the before or after number? Now compare the labor participation rate.
     
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    Pump enough uppers in an old man and he can stay up right and speak what ever lies are pumped into his ear for a little more than an hour.
     
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    LOL. The world. Duh.
    You seriously don't know the speech where world leaders laughed out loud at the 2X impeached incumbent loser?
     
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    You mean the speech at the UN, where there Germans were laughing? That speech?

    The Germans aren't laughing anymore; not since Russia cut off their natural gas...lol
     
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    You were there? I doubt it.
    The world's leaders laughed.
     
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    Those aren't "world leaders". They ambassadors to the United Nations. Thank God those morons aren't calling the shots. Look how they allowed terrorists to run UNRWA and support terrorists in Gaza. Hell, there were actual UNRWA employees who participated in the 10/7 massacre.

    And we're supposed to be concerned that THOSE ass wipes laughed at our president?... LMAO
     
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    The OP's Characterization of Biden's Performance


    Reality
     
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