7 October testimonies strike major blow to Israeli narrative

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  1. Bob Newhart

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    Of course I didn't. Unlike Israeli supporters I don't make up evidence.

    However, I did present evidence to you and you did refuse to watch it.

    That's all that needs to be said. Your twisting of my words in a Pee-Wee Herman type of manner does not change this.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I strongly oppose the way Palestinian leadership uses their people as expendable pawns. If only they cared about their people as much as they hate Jews.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not twist your words. I used the “quote” feature and challenged your false statements. There are no global heterosexual firing squads and Israel did not kill their own people. Either post a credible link, retract your false statements or enjoy having zero credibility.

    I supported my posts. One side cleanses their land and is working on the tiny scratch on the map where minorities are allowed to exist. You helped verify that.
     
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    If you took the time to read in context, you would know that I was making fun of your "Homosexual activity Gaza Strip Firing squad" which doesn't exist and never has.
    Considering you believe Wikipedia is credible, I'm really not concerned with your insult that I have "zero credibility".
    You lost every argument and decided to go after Red Herrings.
    "Allowed to exist." smh. This is your standard. Homosexuals, heterosexuals, Christians, Muslims, and other religions and minorities are allowed to exist in every country bordering the LARPing state of Israel. And yes, one side cleanses the land.
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    Don't remember how many times I've posted this but Israeli supporters have always been too afraid to read it.
    Nope.
     
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    It's a simple yes or no question, Do you think it's ok to kill palestinian women and children?
     
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    You are incorrect. My position is solid and you helped confirm that your side is the one doing the cleansing. Here are the facts you have been unable to refute:

    Except for Israel, the region has been or is being cleansed of minorities.
    There was no occupation prior to the attack on innocent civilians.

    If your side just left the Jews alone, the Palestinians could focus on creating a thriving society like Israel does. This is never mentioned by anyone on your side of the debate. Its not about improving the lives of these people; its about finishing the cleansing job your side has already accomplished in the rest of the region.

    In addition to being unable to refute these easily proven facts, you have resorted to extreme diversions to the point of falsely claiming that heterosexuals are executed by firing squad for being heterosexuals. The fact that these tactics have eroded your credibility is not an insult. It is merely an observation.
     
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    Its not a simple issue. I strongly oppose Palestinian leadership using these people as human shields. They lives could be greatly improved if their leadership didn't keep them primitive and angry to preserve their willingness to be used as pawns for Jew haters.
     
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    so how exactly do you have the moral authority here if you are no better than the ppl who will not condemn the "cleansing of homosexuals in the region" if you wont condemn the cleansing of palestinians?

    the answer: you dont. therefore you are in no position to cast stones and its no wonder your agenda here of constantly bringing up the plight of homosexuals holds no water.
     
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    Yes, my side - the U.S. should leave Israel alone. We should stop working with them, providing arms, bombs and ammunition to them, trading with them, or even talking to them. However, I wouldn't include all Jews. Equating Israel and Jews is ignorant and stupid.
    I just did, so false.
    You're projecting.
    More projection.
     
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    Their lives could be greatly improved by not dropping bombs on them and letting humanitarian aid through.
     
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    Latest estimates by British think tanks and investigative teams suggest 800 Israelis killed by hamas and 400 Israelis killed by IDF on October 7.

    Would you dispute those figures?
     
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    The side you are debating on behalf of has cleansed their land of Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims, and those critical of religion/government. How is that moral high ground?
     
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    I agree with air dropping food and medicine and hope hamas lets the women and children have some of it. If they weren't launching rockets, there would be no bombing. This is an example of what I have been saying. Its all about criticizing Israel, not improving their lived.
     
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    isupport Israel, have done for many years. Your false premise relegates the rest of your post to the garbage, sadly.
     
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    Latest estimates by British journalists and investigative teams suggest 800 Israelis killed by hamas and 400 Israelis killed by IDF on October 7.

    Would you dispute those figures?
     
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    Air dropping is a token effort. They required 500 trucks of aid a day before all of this happened. Far, far more is required than what is being dropped.
     
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    "Nuh uh" is not a valid argument. Unless you can point a thriving population of any Jews, your side is the one doing the cleansing.
     
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    I support the Israel that is safe for Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, Arab-Israelis, Muslims, non-Muslims, and those critical of religion/government. You may support the geographical Israel, but it does not appear that you and I support the same Israel. Do these minorities get to exist in the Israel you support?
     
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    The anti black racism is quite pervasive in the WJE camp, its no surprise you have not listed them in your little exclusivity list. Black folk are used to this though, as the most persecuted ppl in history.
     
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    Link please.

    The problem is that Palestinian leadership will exploit any humanitarian efforts and bring in missiles and arms to further their cleansing efforts, already completed in the rest of the region. Of course, releasing hostages would being immediate aid if the leadership cared about their own people. They don't.
     
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    logical fallacy.
    Given that most Jews left for Israel in 1938 due to aaliyah programmes, it's hardly a surprise that most Arabic countries only have a few thousand Jews in their respective communities.
     
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    so you dispute it then.

    If you don't believe the Latest estimates by British journalists and investigative teams suggesting that 800 Israelis killed by hamas and 400 Israelis killed by IDF on October 7 then what numbers does your investigation bring up?

    We all know 1200 died..
     
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    That is the only argument you've provided.
     
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    An Israeli Hasbara officer is spreading lies again - no surprise.

    https://www.thedp.com/article/2023/11/ihra-working-definition-antisemitism-penn-codes-of-conduct

    He also wants to repeal the 1st amendment. No surprise there.
    Yes, the U.S. should definitely stop supporting Israeli terrorists.
     
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