7 October testimonies strike major blow to Israeli narrative

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry, I don't watch youtube or use it to make my arguments. Its for flat Earthers and Hetero firing squaders.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Quote me or retract your false statement. I made no such insistence.
     
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    You are constantly saying how all nations in the Middle East except for Israel are inhumane and want to kill the Jews and all gay people, etc, and how they have no diversity so they must hate everyone else.. You say it pretty much in every thread about Israel.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Either quote me or retract your false statement.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I realize that took you a long time to edit my post, but you intentionally minimized the parts where I referred to leadership. Very dishonest.
     
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    Nope, anyone with at least a high school education can see "they" refers to the Palestinians. Implying otherwise is false and an improper use of grammar.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you mean the grammar you reduced to fine print in your dishonest attempt to misrepresent my position. These are good people with bad leadership.

    No reasonable person would translate "they" into "100% of them"
     
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    Yet, you support the murder of "good people", the destruction of the homes and property of "good people", the starvation of "good people", the destruction of hospitals of "good people", the destruction of universities of "good people", and the confiscation of "good people's" property.

    Your arguments are contradictory.

    You only claim to believe Palestinians are good people in order to disguise your true feelings about them. You refuse to read or watch anything which is not Hasbara. You deny this and then asked what else you watch or read, you refuse to answer. You refuse to answer any questions you've promise to answer. You refuse to respond or discuss the OP of this thread. You make statements, provide no evidence to back them up, demand they be refuted, when evidence is presented, you refuse to read or watch it declaring it to be a hoax. Even the most obvious satire escapes your notice as you repeat the satire as if it were to be taken seriously.

    You don't like these words being thrown back at you because they are your true feelings.

    Why doesn't "multi-cultural" Israel allow the Palestinians to flee into Israel? You answered this question!

    Why didn't Israel investigate the crimes move in police forces and arrest the criminals involved in the October 7 crimes? You answered this as well!

    "These are good people with bad leadership." statement is a ruse which doesn't represent your true feelings.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More dishonest claims and personal attacks.

    Making claims as to how another person feels comes at the expense of ones own credibility. Since your heterosexual firing squad post, credibility is no longer an issue.

    Again, here are my unrefuted claims:

    The region outside Israel has been or is being cleansed of minorities.
    There was no occupation in Gaza prior to the rape, mutilation, murder, and kidnapping attack.

    Also, I support air dropping and building a pier to help get humanitarian aid to these people. I hope hamas allows some of them to have food.
     
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    Keep on asking for sources and I get nothing.
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    What choice of words? Israel encouraged Iranian Jews to leave Iran and gave them money to leave and many refused.

    And here we have a quote from Iranian Jews, 2007

    "However, the Society of Iranian Jews dismissed them as "immature political enticements" and said their national identity was not for sale. "The identity of Iranian Jews is not tradable for any amount of money," the society said in a statement. "Iranian Jews are among the most ancient Iranians. Iran's Jews love their Iranian identity and their culture, so threats and this immature political enticement will not achieve their aim of wiping out the identity of Iranian Jews."

    Israel want to claim that Iran is wiping out Jews and bribed many Jews to leave Iran with promises of money and homes. Israel purposely sowed seeds of mistrust to generate hatred of Iran making the life of Iranian Jews so difficult that some had to leave

    But here you are claiming that I hate Jews. I think you should apologize for that.
     
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    You amended your statement from "bribed" to "encouraged." Thats fair. Did you know that Iran also has incentives for not going to Israel? If an Iranian Jew visits Israel, they go to prison!

    In the 2016 Iranian census, the remaining Jewish population of Iran was 9,826 As of 2021, only 8,500 Jews still live in Iran.

    Iranian Jews remain under various discriminatory legal restrictions regarding their position in society. Jews are prohibited from holding significant governmental and decision-making positions.

    In Iran, a Muslim who kills a Jew will not go to a trial, even if there were witnesses to the crime, the Muslim will pay at most a fine for his deed.

    I made no such claim to apologize for. You made that up.
     
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    What a load of rubbish!
     
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    Lol. The Iranian Jews condemn Israel and the response is, Iran forced them too! Your link supports what I wrote. Anyone who criticises Israel must be antisemitic or forced to, even if they are Jews

    Israel bribes Iranian Jews to leave Iran and then cries look at the falling numbers of Jews in Iran .

    All you do is attack all Muslims and Arabs. After all, according to you they all just want to kill Jews. But hey, even with witnesses all they will get is a fine.

    Your words show you have a strong hatred of all Muslims. You are proof of what I have claimed
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have never attacked Muslims or Arabs. I have said nothing that a reasonable person could translate into hating Muslims. Resorting to ad hom fallacies only reveals ones inability to defend a position on merit. This is not about me.

    I do not hate anyone. I have no issue with criticizing Israel. (The only country in the region where criticizing religion/government is not a crime)

    Back to the topic:

    There was no occupation prior to the rape mutilation, murder, and kidnapping attack.
    The surrounding region has been all but cleansed of Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims, and those critical of religion/government.

    There is one tiny scratch of land that has not been cleansed and I strongly support their right to exist.
    I hope the hostages are brought home soon and that hamas is defeated.
     
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    Keep on asking for sources and I get nothing.
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    You already proved my point by pointing out a declining population of Christians in Egypt. You are a good source for me.

    How about those heterosexual firing squads?
     
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    Name one source I have given which you read or watched.
    They never existed nor did I ever say they existed.

    You’re the only one who hasn’t figured that out. That must be embarrassing and sad for you. But think of it as a learning experience. Maybe you should look up satire on Wikipedia. That’s actually one thing you seem to read.

    You, however, still support the murder of Christians in Palestine. You want all the lands around Palestine to be cleansed of its minorities. You consider them all to be “savages”. That’s your word - not mine.

    Oh, and still no sources . . .

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    Memes are great. Why think for ones self when it has already been done for you. Here is what you said:

    Making false statements about me is a forum violation. (In bold) I never said any of that. Either use the quote feature (Like I did) or retract your false statements about me.
     
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    Islamaphobia is trendy ATM. Most of these haters have never met a Muslim, let alone had a civil discussion with a Muslim in their life.

    These ppl are either conditioned from birth by their family to think this way, as is the case with the White Jewish Europeans or conditioned by the islamaphobic governments in USA and UK.
     
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    I strongly oppose what the Israeli government did to the USS Liberty in 1967. Those actions clearly show Israel to be an enemy of the US, by all means NOT an ally.

    I strongly oppose what the Israeli government did on 911. Those actions clearly show Israel to be an enemy of the US, not an ally, and that deception misled all gullible Americans into hating Muslims.

    Though I was just a kid, I agree with Ike standing up to Ben Gurion way back in the 50s. Israel's actions in those days showed them to be advocates of Genocide, stemming from their religious zealotry.

    That said, I have numerous Jewish friends and support several organizations of reasonable Jewish people who want peace, not genocide.
     
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    Good thing for you is that criticizing government is 100% legal in Israel. Religious zealotry is why the surrounding region had been cleansed of Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims and those critical of religion/government.

    Are you an American? Where in the region can you safely visit and return with your head still attached?
     
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    Yes, the Jewish people for the most part are good. Yes, you can criticize the government there, but here in the US, thanks to the scandalous AIPAC, in 27 states or so an American citizen IST VERBOTEN from participating in boycotts of Israel or its products. Kristi Noem of SD just signed such a bill last week to criminalize such freedom in SD, putting her on my **** list henceforth.
     

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