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I live in a place that has a Latino majority and there is not a single place in this city a person can go to in the middle of the night and not feel safe (although that might be changing thanks to the influx of illegals). That can hardly be said of NYC and Chicago. Let's face it, people, sometimes as a group, have reputations and the FBI statistics seem to back that up.

 

Blacks live in other places than NYC and Chicago lol. And statistics don't really tell the whole picture. Lets take murder for instance. Which represents less than 1% of the total black population. You have to put statistics into perspective.

 

Man you're killing that strawman tonight

 

I suspect that term means something different to you than most of us

 

I could be wrong, but you come across as someone who could take a crime committed by a POC, illegal, LGB, tranny, or white Hispanic and find a way to soften that crime or make excuses for it. On the flip side, if a white person commits a crime against a black person, you also seem like that single crime validates your belief that America and white people are racists.

 

statistics-blacks commit over half the murders. almost all are by black males-a group that is what-6.5% of the population. Filter out those under 12 and those over 50, and it's like 5% of the population committing over 45% of the murders.

that's a serious matter

 

If I had to guess, I’d say most murders are committed by gang members.

 

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You going to go run and cwy now? Boo hoo

 

Where have I said anything about being racist?

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/black-and-hispanic-americans-often-have-lower-credit-scores.html

uhh cause they don't pay back their loans on time or they take out inordinate amounts of credit relative to their income.

why else would you have a bad credit score?

 

Not in the white community it's not. 85% of those murders aren't black.

 

Yeah. Thats because when they move in to the neighborhood in numbers, we move out. So then the only people they have left nearby to rob and assault and murder are each other.

Why the **** do you think we leave? It's not just the smell.

 

Apologies, I responded to the wrong forum member.

 

And for the record yes I know I'm being racist. I'm trying to make a point. These people like @MelshieMaze get on here and cry about how everybody here on the right is a bunch of racists. See the problem is they've never experienced real racism. They've only experienced what they infer as racist intent.

So I want them to understand what actual racism looks like. So that the next time they encounter someone on the right who is just a conservative and might say something they interpret as possibly racist they'll think back and say, "nah this guys not a racist. He might be an idiot but he's not a racist. That immortal guy the other day, that guy was a racist."

 

we are talking about the USA-which I am sure you know about despite that attempt to evade

 

yeah that is true. narcotics has a major part in our murder rates

 

With a few exceptions, the drugs that are killing Americans are mostly, if not entirely controlled, by non white foreigners. When those drugs get into America, is used to be in the old days folks like the Hell's Angels and other white gangs sold them on the street. Those days seem to be over. Now POC seem to be the street distributors and they protect their distribution network by murdering their competitors. Am I wrong?

 

nope. the white biker gangs though do lots of the crystal meth distribution and white Oxy distribution gangs are prevalent on places like SE Ohio-which is a hotbed for Oxy abuse.

 

If I had to guess, i'd say I'm more likely to encounter a POC drug dealer than a biker gang dealer. True?

 

generally true in less you are in some of the rural areas of say Appalachia -i.e. sparsely populated areas. In Urban areas and most suburbs, you are correct

 

Nope:

• The total number of gang homicides reported by respondents in the NYGS sample averaged nearly 2,000 annually from 2007 to 2012. During roughly the same time period (2007 to 2011), the FBI estimated, on average, more than 15,500 homicides across the United States (www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-1). These estimates suggest that gang-related homicides typically accounted for around 13 percent of all homicides annually.
• https://nationalgangcenter.ojp.gov/survey-analysis/measuring-the-extent-of-gang-problems

 

those estimates tend to be really conservative in my experience. I cannot recall the exact criteria used to determine gang membership but lots of those excluded were close associates or involved with gangs even if not actual members. Sort of Like Henry Hill not being a "made man" in the Mafia and thus being excluded as being a "gang member"

 

Could be but I would bet that most murders are drug related more than gang related. Probably a good portion are "both".

 

I'd agree with that. Killing for drugs-killing during a robbery to get money for drugs. Pushers shooting a junkie who tries to rip them off or won't pay up. One pusher whacking another for turf disputes. People high on anger accentuating stuff like CM or blow, killing someone who is in the wrong place at the wrong time.