Pope Francis Congratulated Putin on His Election Victory,

Pope Francis Congratulated Putin on His Election Victory,

Pope Francis Congratulated Putin on His Election Victory, Russian State Media Claims (thedailybeast.com)

Looks like congratulations are in order for the latest democratically elected leader .. Unfortunately we can not say as much for the leader of Ukraine - Zelensky .. who has banned elections for the time being.

 

Francis' brain is rotting from venereal disease

 

Pope Francis is a pope-ulist.

 

Blinken, Putin congratulate Pope Francis on 11th anniversary of election

Russian President Vladimir Putin also congratulated Francis on his anniversary in an official correspondence on Wednesday, remarking that the pope is a “a true and honest defender of peace and one of the few leaders with an honest strategic vision of world problems.”

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...-pope-francis-on-11th-anniversary-of-election

They are just being very diplomatic and polite. The rituals are being observed. The Pope is returning the favor. But Putin's real attitude is probably like Stalin's. --

“Winston Churchill suggested to Stalin the possibility of the Pope’s being associated with some of the decisions taken. ‘The Pope,’ said Stalin thoughtfully. ‘The Pope. How many divisions has he?’”

 

What does that have to do his support for Democracy .. did you think all supporters of democracy are VD positive -- the new woke way to cancel away anything that offends sensitive sensibilities har har

 

Pope is certainly being a better defender of Peace Genocide Joe and the West of late .. perhaps this can make up for some past failings.

 

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Congratulations to the ''winners.''

 

I am unable to make any sense out of your post.

I never mentioned VD, democracy nor anything even remotely connected to your lame post. I merely made the point the pope is a sexual deviant and a drug addict

 

Putin holds elections during the war and wins 88% of the vote… the West call it “dictatorship”.

Zelensky cancels elections and blames the war… the West call it “democracy”.

Funny how that works.

 

Yeah but the Azov Nazi's in this story didn't have an election.. Hitler was Popular .. more so than Zelensky .. was a mover and a shaker Adolf.. .. outdone Bibi in terms of popularity.. and Genocide Joe .. that's just humorous ..

 

I think ya did mention VD ..

VD is venereal disease friend -- and has nothing to do with the democratically elected Leader of Russia .. aka "the topic" nor the fact that the leader of the Azov Nazi team has canceled elections .. Genocide Joe's latest JV-Team .. now get mind out of the gutter and get with the program .. congratulate democracy at work

 

I say we offer one last defense bill, dependent on Ukraine offering a ceasefire and sitting down for peace negotiations.

If Russia refuses, Ukraine gets all the weapons it wants.

If Ukraine refuses, we wash our hands of the whole thing and wish them luck.

Ukraine cannot kick Russia out. It doesnt have the manpower. The war needs to stop before Ukraine loses any more people and Russia takes more of its land. And before it escalates to WW3.

 

Interesting comment.

What do you think those peace-negotiations should be about? Like, Ukraine signing a deal where it gives up part of its territory?
(Which would justify Putin's invasion of Ukraine.)
Which is akin to allowing Hitler ruling Europe because we are all pacifists and against war. Easy way out, right?

If we ''wash our hands of Ukraine'', as you said, then Ukraine might fall under Russian rule.
Austria, like Ukraine, is not a NATO member. Perhaps we should wash our hands of Austria as well and let Putin have it.
Like Hitler was given the Sudetenland. Easy way out, wasn't it?

But here's how the cookie really crumbles.

Vladimir Putin invaded the sovereign nation of Ukraine, for no reason whatsoever, killing thousands upon thousands of innocent civilians.
Any concession made towards Putin that involves Ukraine ceding territory is a justification for his war-crimes, a victory for a dictator and a defeat for democracy altogether.

Ukraine's borders are not just borders. These borders are the Holy Grail of peace in Europe. To suggest they should be sold to the highest bidder (or next-door dictator) is simply unthinkable.
Not that Ukraine would ever consider such an option. Never.

This is why France, the Netherlands and other Euro-countries are sovereign nations again, after Nazi-occupation, because they were willing to fight for their territory until the bitter end. WHATEVER THE COST.
(Unless you suggest that France, the Netherlands and other Nazi-occupied territories should have just put up and shut up? Simply accept the loss of their sovereignty.)

Here's the bad news for you; Legitimate nations exist because they are exactly that; legitimate.
To consider that such legitimacy is, at times of war, up for debate is ludicrous.
Nations have a right to defend their existence.

Ukraine deserves the right to defend its existence, even if it means fighting a war. Whatever the cost. Yes, even at the risk of nuclear war. Which, in any case, will be started by Putin for he is the aggressor in this conflict.
So, in that case, don't blame nuclear war on Ukraine, or the US or UK, simply because they defended democracy.

If (nuclear) war is what it takes to fight the evil that is Putin, or any other dictator, then I am prepared to face it.

How quickly do you sell out...?

 

Russia has been making their requirements - for military safety and not arming Ukraine beyond the usual
amount for a country of that size. And not building missile installations pointing at Moscow, for years.

Russia continued to make offers up until finally moving some military units in on Feb 24 2022, and continued
to offer to negotiate and did negotiate with Ukraine reaching a peace settlement on Apr 1 2022.

Which was cancelled by the US and UK.

There is a complication. Zelenskyy needs the backing of a major power to reach a peace agreement
because the Fascists may decide to kill him if he just decides to take away their opportunity to kill
Russians.

 

As if Putin has credibility.

Really?

You want to go there?

Mag

"Borders" in that part of the world are a different kettle of fish from what we know. The "history" is one of ever-changing ownership ranging from Sweden to Holland, to France, Germany and even Portugal may have had a shot. In truth there are no 'native' peoples. It is part of the "triangle of sorrow" the Polish talk about as the whole region has been fought over by outsiders for all of history from even before the Mongols.

Russia is simply the latest to try to exploit the region, a hold over from post WW2 Kremlin philosophy, of which Putin is 'old school' believing "the Rus" have inherent rights of control of the region.

I visited the region in 1988 during the fall of the Berlin Wall. These are a people who have never truly been defeated although conquered all through history. 15 years of Nazism and 40 years of Soviet oppression hadn't made a dent in Polish stubborness and they consider Ukrainians to be 'too stubborn."
Putin has forgotten his ancestry. Russia has never "ruled" here, occupied yes, ruled never. These people simply cannot and will not ever accept defeat!

I truly believe that Putin knows he's dying and is attempting to do what a few Tsars and conquerors failed to do....recreate the mythical "Russian Empire"

 

Never truly been defeated...as in always getting their asses handed to them lol but iGet what you're trying to say.

A more definitive explanation would be that the region has very little significance or importance and nobody is willing to give their lives to rule over it. In other words, it's a ishthole of a country that is a crossroads of two continents in the mountains where tribes just fight and fcuk eachother constantly, there is no real sophistication that came from there that offered anything to the civilized world

 

Hahahahahaha. Establishment talking points. You must know by now never trust the establishment. They lie all the time.

 

Superb irony, that our lying Biden Administration, claims Putin is a liar.

Vlad was the only one that kept his word in the Minsk Agreement.

 

Yes. The projection by our government is so obvious, yet many still can’t see it.

 

It could be that's the way the human brain works.

We are the good guys, They are the bad guys.

so even when we are doing bad stuff, a lot of people
take it too personally and therefore can't see it.

 

This sums up 99% of posters here lmao

 

Well you can go ahead and wash your hands right now. Reason being, zelensky/ukraine banned negotiations with Russia.

This the same zelensky/ukraine that said amending their constitution to implement some terms of the Minsk Accords was impossible. Like ensuring the Russian language was an official language that could be used in ukraine.

Be gone Azov nazis and Banderites. The world is better off without you.

 

Yup. I think both Ukraine and Russia will agree to a ceasefire if the US pushes for one. But we have our own neocon trostkyites with a hardon for dead Russians (and a *meh* for dead Ukrainians), and most of our representatives are invested in arms manufacturing. Peace is only popular with the peasants, as usual.

 

If faced with no more arms from US, i suspect any 'ban on negotiations' will be quickly forgotten. Only one way to find out.

 

I dont really care what happens during the negotiations, so long as it happens diplomatically instead of on a battlefield. Most analysts predict negotiations would last for years or decades with contested portions of Ukraine being in a sort of political limbo. Not ideal, but better than being the front line in endless trench warfare. If only peace could break out, we could send in UN peacekeepers and aid workers or whatever. It prolly wont be quite the paradise it used to be, but at least things can be built and a lot less people will be dieing.

Ukraine is slowly losing. The only way that reverses is if NATO puts boots on the ground, and that quickly becomes WW3. Better for everyone (except maybe Zelensky) if the ethnic-Russian Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine eventually get away with not having to be Ukraine anymore.