Democratic anger over Israel reaches new heights

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Palestinians living in The West Bank did not fire rockets or carry out terrorism and their reward was more and more settlements being built with the full support of the Israeli government.
     
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    Seems you are unfamiliar with WW2 history and when that war ended. Like the Nazis the bombs will keep falling on Gaza until Hamas is obliterated. Are you having a tough time understanding what obliterate means?
     
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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There will be Palestinians still standing when Hamas is obliterated. Just like the Germans were still standing after the Nazis were obliterated.
     
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    That is debatable. The list of Israeli crimes against humanity since 1948 is very long even if the USS Liberty and 911 events are not added to the list.
     
  5. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I appreciate you sharing your personal experience. Things have changed since the 70s. Their problems are self inflicted. Their leadership keeps them angry and primitive to preserve their willingness to be used as pawns for Jew haters.

    The Gaza medical system, just like the school system, is a shield for terrorists. They launch attacks from these places to draw fire to they have articles and images to use to preserve the hate. Iran cannot attack Israel and win, so they have their proxy, hamas, exploiting women and children just so Israel can look bad and get people to come to internet forums and post extreme bias links.

    I would love to see the Middle East, but unfortunately, it is no longer safe for those enjoying having their heads attached. I asked you to point out a thriving population of Jews, Christians, atheists, gay people, non-Muslims or people critical of religion/government, and you cannot because the region has been cleansed. Israel is by far the most diverse country in the region. Arab-Israelis are happy there.
     
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    It's collateral damage. It happens in war.
     
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    The objective is to drive Hamas out of the Palestinians
     
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  8. truth and justice

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    Mass killing of civilians drives the families of those slaughtered into thoughts of revenge
     
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    Yep, that was the way this mess got underway.
     
  10. Par10

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    Sure we can condemn Hamas. We can send good thoughts to the Palestinians. We can provide hope and prayers.
    What good does that do?
    In the end, the rulers of the Palestinians, whoever that may be, will continue to encourage the death of all Jews living in Israel. They will continue to fire rockets or throw rocks or whatever they can to harm innocent Israeli citizens. What do you propose they do in order to stop the violence in Israel?
     
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  11. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The holocaust is debated as well. I say leave the Jews alone and focus on creating a thriving society. (Just like Israel does)
     
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    It's been that way for decades, both sides taking turns. Hence Hamas, or the next noun used to describe the same group, will never go away until the side who have the real power actually demonstrates a real commitment to a peaceful solution which could start in removing the new settlements in The West Bank
     
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    no one is saying Israel can execute the Hamas folks - that they are saying is that starving and killing the innocent Gaza citizens is wrong and should be avoided if at all posible
     
  14. Par10

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    Sure, what would be your plan then? You are the president of Israel and the safety of the Israelis are your responsibility. What do you do?
     
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    Certainly not kill civilians. Protecting Palestinians is every bit as important as protecting Israelis. A leader of one country cannot kill innocents of another country using the excuse that they are killing innocents to protect innocents. That is just criminal, and basically turns Israel into terrorists. Israel is literally doing what they are accusing Hamas of doing, except 20 times worse.

    That basically justifies what Hamas did on October 7th, which should be unacceptable.
     
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    try not to starve\kill innocent Gaza Citizens needlessly - I think I was clear in stating that
     
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    and how do you accomplish that with Hamas hiding in people's living rooms, schools, hospitals, etc.? How do you safely feed people without putting the caregivers in danger?
    How do you know that Israel isn't already doing that the best way possible?
     
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    FYI, there's plenty of hate in that are.
    https://apnews.com/article/christia...hu-jerusalem-e287dd6bad32573d1656eaea07223782

    Plenty of hate in that area.
     
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    Weird indeed. Schumer fancies himself the King of Israel....
     
  20. FreshAir

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    so you think euthanizing all Gazaian's just in case some Hamas folks are hiding there is ok

    as what I said was, no one is saying Israel can execute the Hamas folks - what they are saying is that starving and killing the innocent Gaza citizens is wrong and should be avoided if at all possible
     
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    Uh, because they are causing the worst humanitarian crisis on the planet. Putin or Xi could and probably would do a better job than Netanyahu is doing.
     
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    How did Land for Peace work out last time?
     
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    So far, no one has said how they would avoid starving and killing the innocent Gaza citizens. Lots of vauge statements about what they shouldn't do, but no real solutions. It's easy to sit back and say, "they shouldn't do __________". It's not so easy to say, "they should do ______".
    They could stop everything right now and Hamas would continue to kill. All you would have accomplished is letting terrorists to continue to terrorize.
     
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    The Palestinians were never given full autonomy
     
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    They had enough to strap explosives to their children and send them to cafes and buses to kill Jews. They created their own open air prison.
     
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