Compare Israel To Hamas

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israeli neighbors, all Arab states with same religion, won't even accept these slime buckets as refugees. Wonder why that is? Is it because all Palestinians are pre-puberty Hamas?
     
  2. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    As Bribed Joe turns his back on Israel, he is appeasing those in America who are changing DEATH TO AMERICA.

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    This Is Who Joe Biden Is Appeasing in Michigan As He Abandons Support for Israel


    You can draw a straight line from Biden appeasing those who change DEATH TO AMERICA and Obama sitting in the pews of Reverend Wright who repeated thundered GD DMN AMERICA!

    'Democrat Rep. Rashida Tlaib's district, Michigan's 12th Congressional district. Tlaib is the only Palestinian American member of Congress. There is no question about her complete support for Gaza.'

    'chants of "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" were heard. A speaker was heard to say the same. The hatred was focused on America though, not Israel, as the main speaker noted.'

    Israel cannot be reasonably compared to Hamas.

    '"Imam Khomeini, who declared the International Al-Quds Day, this is why he would say to pour all of your chants and all of your shouts upon the head of America," Tarek Bazzi, a Michigan-based activist associated with the Hadi institute, said in a video from the rally that was shared by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).'

    'Bazzi’s comments were followed by crowds chanting "Death to America!" in the background.'
     
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  3. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah .. but they have not taken responsibility for the extermination of 12,000 children .. they lied about the 7 aid workers killed .. what about the other 180 aid workers killed .. Journalists targeted along with their families .. Food distribution centers .. Hospitals targeted.

    And what are you talking about .. everyone condemned the terror attack on Oct 7 .. the Joke Mainstream media leads with that with every broadcast .. while downplaying the Israeli Ethnic Cleansing program and crimes against humanity.

    Your claim that Israel did not start the skirmish is false - made up abject nonsense at best. Hamas exercising the right of self defense and for this Bibi taking revenge on Palestinian Children .. a collective punishment war crime.

    That's why the Irish delegation to the UN say "The Hague too good for Bibi" .. and Genocide Joe not far behind. We should be arming the Palestinian freedom fighters against a foreign occupier as we help the Ukrainians against a foreign occupier .. The claims of rape and baby beheading turned out to be the standard IDF lies .. should no better than to believe a word out of the mouth of those racist xenophobic scum buckets.

    "we must remember Israel did not start the skirmish " you say - LOL what a joke that is mate .. suppose you figure Germany did not start the skirmish in Poland in WW2 - the brown shirts did not start the skirmish in the Warsaw Ghetto --
     
  4. Zorro

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    Gaza's government of terrorists cannot be favorably compared to the IDF by any reasonable person.

    Report: Hamas Says Has ‘No Ability’ To Release Even 40 Israeli Hostages, Suggesting Most Murdered

    'Prime Minister Netanyahu: Israel’s “victory requires entry into Rafah and the elimination of the terrorist battalions there. It will happen – there is a date.”'

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    'Hamas has rejected the latest U.S.-backed ceasefire offer to free some of Israeli hostages in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian terrorists, saying that it has “no ability” to free even 40 out of 133 captives believed in its control — an chilling admission suggesting that the terrorist group has killed most of the hostages taken to Gaza six months ago.'

    Every Gazan terrorist needs to die.

    “Hamas breached the understandings that were reached in Paris and which stipulated that 40 hostages would be released, and is claiming that it knows the location of less than 40 hostages who are alive, Channel 12 News reported on Monday,” the Israeli broadcaster Arutz Sheva reported

    'According to Yaron Avraham on Channel 12 Israel news, Hamas has told the mediators that it does not have 40 hostages in the humanitarian category that are still alive. That is a category of women, children, the elderly, and the sick. The number that they say is alive, which is significantly lower, has not been made public. This, of course, is a serious obstacle for the ceasefire talks that seem to be progressing.'

    'The remaining hostages presumed to be in Hamas captivity include women, children, elderly, as well as five U.S. nationals. “The captivity figure includes 19 women, 10 people over the age of 75, and two children,” The New York Post noted Tuesday. “In addition, US officials say five of the remaining hostages are American citizens, though it is unclear whether they are alive or dead.”'

    'Hamas made the admission after Israel on Sunday withdrew all troops from southern Gaza — amid growing pressure from the Biden White House on Jerusalem to end or scale down the military operation, and reports of a planned Israeli offensive on the last remaining Hamas stronghold of Rafah.'
     
  5. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its safe to criticize Israel.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It appears as though you oppose a skin color; not the actions. Are people no less dead when killed by other races?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Complete nonsense.
     
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    You do not identify yourself. Obviously you want to destroy Israel as well as Palestine as indicated by your insistence on war. Typical. So you would hide behind civilians as well? I think you know if you were to seriously threaten Israel, WE would destroy you, USA and everything you represent
     
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    Neither side may cross…or what?
     
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    THEN you have an actual war between armies. As it is now you have fighting by an underground which helps promote terrorism fighting a well equipped army that says "accidents happen" which is polite terrorism. Not good.
     
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    Like Lebanon which has a standing army and no terrorists?

    oh wait….
     
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  12. Zorro

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    One cannot reasonably favorably compare the Gazan terrorists to the IDF

    'Within two weeks of the Oct. 7 Hamas terror invasion of southern Israel Jews started buying guns in record numbers.'

    Imagine if the Gazan Terrorists would have tried that in our heavily armed US society.

    Why I Got a Gun.

    "More than 300,000 Israelis have requested gun permits — twice the total number of people who owned guns before. In the Tel Aviv area, the number of permit requests rose 800 percent. This may be the most visible symptom of the way our sense of safety has been shattered. For me, the change is manifest in the form of a small Glock—an ugly little monument to a change for the worse in this country and in the lives of its citizens."

    The change had already occurred, you just didn't know it until it was too late.
     
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  13. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am glad to hear that Israelis are going to be prepared to defend themselves. Just knowing that there are armed citizens will be a deterrent for the cowards looking for easy victims.
     
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    Check out the posters here for the same.

    Gaza likes it when Jewish women are unarmed.

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    Israel didn't build diddly squat. Th U.S. provides for the dome.

    Hamas built tunnels for self-defense just like the Vietnamese did.

    Do you want the U.S. to go back to Vietnam to murder some more children?
    Countless . . . no. There are not even countless Nobel Prize winners. There are 892 Nobel Prize winners among people and organizations.

    Are you claiming to be unable to count to 892?

    But about this Jewish supremacism you support . . .

    Did you know that, the vast majority of Nobel Prizes won by Jews were won by Askhenazi Jews?

    Sephardic Jews have only won a handful and Mizrahi Jews have won ZERO. Even in Israel, where Ashkenazi Jews are the minority, they have won ALL the Nobel Prizes in Israel. Meanwhile, Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews in Israel have won ZERO, even though they are the majority of the population.

    Ashkenazi Jews are the sub-group of Jews who historically most mixed with white Western Europeans, whereas Sephardic and Mizrahi are mixed with non-Europeans. Given this data, what kind of conclusions should we draw about the Jewish race and its unique and superior genius?

    Should we be more specific and say it is the Jews who mixed with Western Europeans who are "making a difference for humanity," not these other Jewish sub-categories? Can a Jewish supremacist on this forum please educate me? As an inferior non-Jew, I want to understand all the nuances of the genetic and cultural superiority that Jews posses. Correction: That Ashkenazi Jews posses. The Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews, apparently, are just as inferior as the rest of us.
    That's your fantasy - not reality.
     
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    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    "You Don’t Win Wars Just By Intercepting Your Enemy’s Hits"

    But remember, Bribed Joe lost Afghanistan, and lost it completely unnecessarily.

    Not A Victory For Israel
    One talking point endlessly repeated by the empty headed blabber-mouths 'after Iran's missile attack on Israel over the weekend was that the successful interception of most of the missiles by Israel and its allies was a victory.'
    1. 'Contrary to what pundits are saying, this wasn’t designed merely as “bells and whistles” with no damage. When you shoot 350 flying objects timed to hit Israel at the same moment, when you use three fundamentally different weapon types—cruise missiles, ballistic missiles and UAVs, you’re looking to penetrate Israel’s defenses and kill Israelis.'
    2. 'The US administration is telling us: “This is a victory, you’ve already won by thwarting the missiles. No need for any further action.” No, it’s NOT a victory. Yes, it’s a remarkable success of Israel’s air defense systems, but it’s not a victory. When a bully tries to hit you 350 times and only succeeds seven time, you’ve NOT won. You don’t win wars just by intercepting your enemy’s hits, nor do you deter it. Your enemy will just try harder with more and better weapons and methods next time. How DO you deter? By exacting a deeply painful price.'
    3. 'It’s incorrect to say “nobody got hurt”. There’s a 7 year-old Israeli-Arab girl called Amina Elhasuny fighting for her life. That’s who coward Khamenei hit.'
    4. 'The Islamic Republic of Iran made a big mistake. For the past 30 years it’s been wreaking havoc on the region—through its proxies. A terror-octopus whose head is Tehran, and its tentacles are in Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq, Syria and Gaza. How convenient. The Mullahs send others to conduct horrendous terror attacks, and die for them. Other people’s blood. Israel’s strategic mistake for the past 30 years was to play along this strategy. We always fought the Octopus’ arms, but hardly exacted a price from its Iranian head. This should change now: Hezbollah or Hamas shoots a rocket at Israel? Tehran pays a price.'
    Read the whole thing.
     
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    Again, what US president ordered the release of all 5000 Taliban prisoners in 2020?
    What president negotiated a departure of by May 1st for US soldiers in Afghanistan?
    What US president renegotiated the departure to the end of August to give people more time to leave?
    What president repeatedly reminded Americans in Afghanistan of the final departure date?
    Which Americans deserve my sympathy when they didn't leave prior to that date?*
    Which president do I blame for any and all problems with the departure? This one the answer is less obvious, the release of 5000 Taliban was at the root and one of the most stupid things an American president has ever done. His successor can be blamed I suppose for the renegotiated departure date in search of order as it gave the Taliban more time to gain power but had they not been released in the first place that would have been minimized.

    *I live someplace where foreigners were once encouraged to leave by the UN. I arranged for 2 US grad students doing research to get UN evacuation but my response to the UN person who said to me as I made their arrangements "I don't suppose you're going?" Nope and I would have blamed no one but myself had that been a bad decision.
     
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    @StillBlue

    Bribed Joe was Commander in Chief. He unnecessarily lost Afghanistan against the sound advice of his own folks.

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      Mar 20, 2024 'The top two US generals who oversaw the evacuation of Afghanistan as it fell to the Taliban in August 2021 blamed the Biden administration for the chaotic departure, telling lawmakers on Tuesday ...'
     

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