Joe Biden Now Leads Donald Trump in Ten Polls

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  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    and there you go

    rather than admit media bias toward the Democrat party exists, you claim conspiracy theory. I applaud you for being a loyal Democrat voter.
     
  2. independentthinker

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    LOL. First of all, Trump leads Biden in pretty much every swing state. Second of all, the contest is not between Trump and Biden. It is between 5 candidates for president.
     
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    All the recent polls in a two candidate race - https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden


    All the recent polls in a five way race - https://www.realclearpolling.com/po...24/trump-vs-biden-vs-kennedy-vs-west-vs-stein


    Or as of 1400hrs 18 Apr 2024. I added this because yours stated 15 Apr 2024. The thing to note with an average MOE of plus or minus 3 points, we’re still looking at a basic tie between these two old foggies. All the polls, at least the RCP average of all the recent polls has have shown a basic tie. Neither one of these two old foggies has been able to get a lead outside the MOE.
     
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    Lower prices were caused by very low demand. That was caused, in turn, by the economy crashing during Covid. You thought a crashed economy was "good"? We should have pandemics so that you can buy cheap gas? Low unemployment? LOL! Trump's piss poor leadership during Covid cost the US 2.9 million jobs!

    If you're gonna blather about Trump's wondrous presidency, maybe get your memory restored.
     
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    I find the biggest difference to be that Fox News deliberately spreads disinformation.
     
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    And they do it to make their audience happy and make money.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    That is a pretty big claim coming from you two… Rachel Madcow would be proud of you two…
     
  8. Nemesis

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    Check out the record in the Dominion defamation case. Fox lies and they do it to please the viewers and make money.
     
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    So will we have a Trump v. Biden debate? I would love to see the polls after a devate. lol
     
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    No. Trump will be frightened of debating Dark Brandon.
     
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    :mrgreen:
     
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    You see no irony in your post ?

    YES, MSNBC has a liberal bias.

    Fox News is beyond a conservative BIAS

    But claiming that the entirety of media is a liberal bias is ridiculous. Personally, I think that Fox is so far right, that they make the middle look far left. There are media outlets that ride the middle, but the real problem in America today is NOT the media, its the audience and their REQUIREMENT for confirmation bias. Call me when MSNBC has to pay a BILLION$$ fine for lying

    Step back for one second and realize that MSNBC issues corrections when they get something wrong, FOX news doubles down. Lets be clear here, and at least admit that the right doesn't care about facts, they care about confirmation bias. This is clearly born out in the fact that in 2020 during the election, Fox was caught lying, their talking heads admitted they were lying, and then when their texts were released as part of the trial, they told their audience that they knew you were dumb, and their audience just said "OK". Then when Fox News fired them, they all went off on their own and they all still have huge followings. Hell, right after that new outlets came out, OAN, NewsMax etc, and they stayed on cable systems and internet feeds (No FCC fines) to become even further from truth, and they all have large viewerships. What other "liberal" outlets are there ?

    Lets just be honest and admit that the right in this country doesnt care about facts, they just want confirmation bias, and they get it daily because they dont care about facts, they care about their feelings
     
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    Trump's big lead in many of the swing states is dwindling.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...tes-fortunes-shifted-over-6-weeks/ar-AA1nejsg

    Former President Donald Trump has seen his polling lead drop in four out of seven swing states over the last six weeks, and no longer leads President Biden in Pennsylvania or nationally, an average of polls shows.
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    However, an analysis of polls taken roughly 45 days ago versus today by racetothewh.com shows Trump is losing ground.
     
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    It isn't a claim, it's a legally established fact. Your whataboutism is irrelevant.
     
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    The thing about RCP is that Rasmussen is 8pts, and, as such, is an outlier poll, and it is an outlier poll because it's methodology is landlines. 8 pts is way out of a wack with all the polls, few of which go higher than 4 pts. Who still uses landlines? Mostly elderly, and they vote republican and for Trump. So that poll is definitely flawed.

    so, remove that 8 pointer from the averages, and Biden is ahead.

    Did you hear that @Zorro?

    And now Biden is ahead in the battlegrounds states:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/trump-vs-biden-top-battleground-states/#!
     
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    So, who’s to blame…?
     
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    Somebody cautioned me on this, and I am relaying the caution. This race is way too close to start getting complacent. Biden has a long road ahead, and will need to capture more Independent vote. He will also need a good voter turnout.

    One thing we have to keep in mind is that Biden will lose votes to Stein, and probably Kennedy (only because he carries that "Democratic" name).
     
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    How was his economy pre-covid? Then compare it to this idiot currently in the white house's economy. Let me know which was better

    Edit: Since I know liberals are immune to facts and logic, a 30 second google search showed that in 2019:

    Unemployment rate: 3.5%
    Growth rate: 2.5% (Obama's was 2.25%)
    Blacks in poverty dropped below 20%, the first time since WW2
    Household incomes increased
    Gas was $2.60/gallon
    Food costs were low

    Now go ahead and tell me how we're better off now, with gas back up to $4/gallon and a lb of ground beef is $8. I'll wait.
     
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    Follow the news about taxpayer funded NPR

    why not check out media matters and then look at the headlines of your media stations

    Or, I could waste my time suggesting it to you
     
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    The problem conservatives have with NPR is that they report the facts. Those facts usually counter the Fox narrative

    What the right in this country refuses to accept is that Fox has moved the goalposts so far to the right, that the middle is now considered "liberal". Then add in OAN and Newsmax and you have a trifecta of conservative bias. Fox News paid a BILLION $$$ fine and their viewership actually increased. That is literally all we need to know about this country : One side of the debate actually wants to be lied to !
     
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    Why, George Soros and Hillary, of course!
     
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    I seriously cannot understand how we have these 2 as candidates ?

    The 2 party system HAS TO GO !!!

    Trump is literally on trial for lying and paying hush money to a porn star, has 2 other trials awaiting this one and his polling numbers stayed the same

    Biden is the worst candidate the dems could come up with, and they still have him on the ticket. He is literally the only candidate who can be beat by Trump.

    Both sides are ridiculously bought and paid for.
     
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    Well, Biden was behind, and it's like a horse race where number two is gaining on the long stretch, and will not doubt, given the pace, pull ahead and win on 2024, provided the margin is enough to win in the electoral college, were Republicans have an advantage by at least 3 million in the popular vote.
     
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    Oh, there are many other candidates who have a great deal less experience and international experience than Biden. He’s done a good job with what he’s been given.
     
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    I don't believe that Democrat voters such as yourself want to be lied to. What I believe has happened is so much propaganda has been put forth to you via your usual content providers that you do not even realize it's false. You will not even discuss the fella who just quit NPR after exposing their bias

    Let's look at another leftist group from the 1930's. Do you honestly think German folks hated every Jew? They were fed so much propaganda that they just went along with it; much like Democrat voters do today. I do not believe that every Democrat voter is a vile and immoral person who believes that they know what is best for me. I believe there is good in them and they have simply been programmed with misinformation.
     

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