US military begins process to remove troops from troubled African nation

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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-military-begins-process-remove-troops-niger

    Above is the topic of the article however I want to highlight a key section of this article below.


    This is a big setback. I have spoke about Russia intervention taking the place of ours under liberal policies so it’s no surprise that Biden lost another geopolitical battle with Russia. This can be very hard to replace when other countries see a trend in this kind of fashion. To understand how detrimental this sort of thing is, ask yourself how the geopolitical landscape would be if Reagan allowed Russia to protect Kuwaits ships rather than us? Russia would have had a huge advantage concerning control over oil prices. This may cost us in operations in the region and lessen our intelligence reach.
     
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    Niger has no real need for USA military to be there perhaps.

    These relationships go two ways. It's not all about how it benefits you. That's not how diplomacy really works
     
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    We are actively losing influence in regions that are high in terrorist activity under liberal policies. This has no benefit to us at all and will hurt in the long run. A good read on benefits to being there.

    https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/ICS_AF_Niger_Public.pdf

    part of our mission here was education in a country that for the most part can’t even read. If we were successful the education alone would have made for a populace likely more favorable to democracy and our goals. There is no way we can claim this loss was a simple short fall in my opinion.
     
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    Ah, ok.

    So you were going to teach them Hausa?

    Do you know any songai words?

    Democracy is a scam btw. It leads to corrupt, perverted, selfish predators, racists, bigots and all types of narcissistic individuals getting into office.

    Terrorist activity in Africa?

    That's not going to be in issue in the future hopefully, besides, USA creates many of those terrorists through NATO.
     
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    Why is the word Democracy is still in use?
    The Biden Administration only does things that most of the people would not approve of.
    Trump is better though not that much so.
    There is no large functionally democratic country in the Western world at present.
    Germany offers sufficient candidates so it might become democratic this year,
    but you know that means no more Leopard tanks to Ukraine?
     
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    US military begins process to remove troops from troubled African nation

    Does that mean the troops will be used for actual real defense, like to defend
    our Southern border? Niger doesn't want them and we do, but hey,
    who cares what the US public thinks?
     
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    Republican's American first policy under Trump has the world looking at alternatives, then Trump makes deals with the Taliban for our surender in the middle east
     
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    This is definitely an added issue but it’s still a liberal ideology
     
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    I recall the United States worked with the Taliban, supplying them with shoulder launched missiles and such,
    for years, to harass Soviets, and the Biden Administration left a huge amount of weapons behind I would guess
    for the same purpose.
     
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    One also has to remember that this was not a swap from US to Russian influence as Niger is
     
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    This is the attitude that will ultimately lesson our influence worldwide and will negatively effect us in trade and in defense
     
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    Once again, keeping illegal immigrants from entering this country IS NOT A DUTY of the U.S. military!!!!

    Why can't you (and others) understand that?
     
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    Why is it a big setback?

    Would conservative ideology mandate keeping 500 troops in a meaningless African nation, when the chances are they are going to get attacked? This is not liberal vs conservative thing, it's a common sense thing.

    Strangely your link doesn't say anything about the topic. FOX seems to think Niger and Nigeria are the same country, because they talk about Nigeria.

    He is Russian, so don't expect him to know such things.
     
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    Many Americans don't seem to know that either.
     
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    You can’t blame the fiasco in Afghanistan on Trump. The U.S. needs to reduce its military footprint overseas.
     
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    Because Trump sabotaged the Biden admin by withdrawing troops after Trump lost, Trump did not even try to remove the people
     
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    EVERYONE who disagrees with Biden has to be Russian.

    THERE IS no other possible explanation.
     
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    I hear Totalitarianism is da bomb. Dear Leader cleans out the house at the push of button.
     
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    No, plenty of non-Russians disagree with him.

    Are you saying you are NOT Russian?
     
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    Niger is sort of like Vietnam -- former colony that the French failed to hold on to. So like French IndoChina, the US goes in to keep the former French colonies in the Western orbit. But like IndoChina, except for a veneer of former colonial elites, the people are not culturally Western -- Islamic in this case instead of Buddhist.

    But then there are those oil, gold, coal, and especially the uranium ore deposits...
     
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    It’s times like these where I forget that the US actually DOES have soldiers on the African continent and that it’s just not brought up often on TV, but just through a simple Google search.

    Anyway, we’re definitely not there for any real altruistic reasons.
     
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    Why does that matter? Sounds like if given the choice between fentanyl killing 100,000 Americans every year and temporarily reinforcing our border enforcement with military, you rather the 100,000 Americans all die simply because it’s “not the military’s job”.

    You seriously need to get your priorities straight. Unless you think using the military for what their job actually is warranted? What wars you wanting us to fight?
     
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    Do you also recall that the Soviets had been defeated and left Afghanistan before the rise of the Taliban?

    The Soviet-Afghan war ended in 1989. The Taliban movement was founded in 1990. How exactly did the Taliban harrass the Soviets, with a time machine?
     
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    All of them until all enemies of the U.S. are dead. or have chosen to change sides.
     

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