Trump’s history-making hush-money trial begins ...

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  1. fullmetaljack

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    That's not the outcome I believe will occur. And Bragg isn't presenting a false case, despite what you are wishing for.
     
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    Nah...
    Based on that theory (of "false case"), I totally expect dismissal by the end of proceedings today...
     
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    Apparently he does, if you think otherwise you should post more than just your opinion.
    Since tRaitor tRump changed the whole dynamic of the political landscape and started enlisting his supporters to violently attempt to attack anyone that opposes him.
    He has been charged.
    I'm not claiming that, you are AND, without providing anything but opinion.
    D.A. Bragg disagrees with you AND, this is what the trial is about.
    Our foundation is in good shape, thanks!
    Felonious bookkeeping in conjunction with election fraud.
     
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    It's a AbsaByGodLutely YES, that's what he's being tried for.
     
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    As long as they don't threaten or incite violence against anyone involved in the trial; yes.
    No, that's "how justice works" since tRaitor tRump started inciting his followers to violently act out against his opponents.
     
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    That's not true. But "prove it, be specific". 8)
     
  8. hawgsalot

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    Izzy I asked if they are falsified, what should they be coded as. NDA's are written and paid thousands of times a day across the country. Trump coded them as Legal Fees, if that's falsified, what should they be is the question?
     
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    BAAAA he labeled it legal expenses, but it was hush money, through a legal document called an NDA and an attorney, which happens to be, you guessed it, perfectly legal.
     
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    That's the WHY Trump was "never charged let alone convicted of a federal campaign finance violation."
     
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    But! TRaitor tRump CLAIMED that the payments were for normal legal retainer and legal work; not to reimburse Cohen for paying off a porn star as part of an election interference scam.
     
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    It WAS NOT an NDA it was an under the table "keep your mouth shut, here's 130 large" Shush-deal.
     
  13. Izzy

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    Reimbursement for hush-money payed to a porn star 2 weeks before the 2016 election for her silence.
    Quite simple filling in the truth.
     
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    I don’t know why anyone would claim that Trump’s efforts to hide the payoffs and launder them through third parties was anything less than n effort to advance his election.

    ‘TThe premise of the headline is patently false.
     
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    LOL this explains alot. It was a contract, a contract she broke Trump sued and she owes trump 400k today. How do you no know these simple facts. Just like you previous post, You don't "claim something" when inputting payments into the ledger? You code it based on use, he was paying Cohen for the legal NDA work, hence legal expense. This is all for tax purposes and no other reason because only the tax guy will see it, there fore claiming he attempted to fraud somebody is ignorant since you can't write this off nor did they.
     
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    Rut Roh lefty legal Scholars are calling it like it is and warning all you that are soooo excited. In the NYT no less, it must be about to crash.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/opinion/bragg-trump-trial.html
     
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    Was part of the company's operating business paying off porn stars to keep quiet?

    I presume you've never been a company director? The expense should be coded as personal expenses. Patently obvious really
     
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    No he doesnt. Gag orders are very common when there is a legal issue.

    Especially when they come from people who have power and can influence decisions and outcomes.
     
  19. hawgsalot

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    Matters literally none. It's perfectly legal to pay off Hush Money to Pornstars. This is not difficult. I run 3 companies today sunshine jesus you are hilarious. Do tell us though, why should it be labeled as a personal expense from a legality standpoint? Now that you are catching on with the issue, if you are right you now understand that is a Misdemeanor that ran out in 2018. Game over.

    Do yourself a favor, read this from a lefty legal scholar, from today's NYT, it's setting the stage to help the NY's to understand when this doesn't stick. It gives you the legal issues and the legality of charges. At minimum we can discuss the case past the elementary level that we currently are.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/opinion/bragg-trump-trial.html
     
  20. Izzy

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    There was no pay wall but **** happens.

    Trump’s company approved $420,000 in payments to Cohen, relying on ‘sham’ invoices, prosecutors say
    By Carol D. Leonnig
    and
    Michelle Ye Hee Lee
    August 21, 2018 at 10:56 p.m. EDT

    snip:

    'President Trump’s real estate company authorized paying $420,000 to lawyer Michael Cohen in his effort to silence women during the presidential campaign and then relied on “sham” invoices from Cohen that concealed the nature of the payments, according to legal filings released Tuesday.


    The payments began flowing in February 2017, soon after Trump took office, when Cohen approached Trump Organization executives seeking to be reimbursed for “election-related” expenses, prosecutors said.


    That included a $130,000 payment Cohen had made to adult-film star Stormy Daniels so she would remain silent about an alleged affair with Trump, according to the court documents.


    Trump executives decided Cohen should be paid more than he sought — an additional $360,000 for expenses and other fees and taxes, plus a $60,000 bonus, prosecutors said.'

    cont:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...b327fc-a596-11e8-97ce-cc9042272f07_story.html
     
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    snip:

    “In truth and fact, there was no such retainer agreement, and the monthly invoices COHEN submitted were not in connection with any legal services he had provided in 2017,” prosecutors wrote.


    Trump’s trust paid Cohen early in 2017, but according to Trump’s attorney, he personally paid Cohen the rest of the monthly invoices. The payments, as well as Cohen’s admission to prosecutors that he made illegal campaign contributions “in cooperation” with Trump’s campaign, present potential legal questions for Trump’s company and his campaign, experts said.'

    cont:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...b327fc-a596-11e8-97ce-cc9042272f07_story.
     
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    Izzy is there a law your aware of that says a media outlet can't shield a politician or political party? If there is the courts going to be full for 1000 years because this happens daily. Again there is nothing there illegal?
     
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    Lol. No one said that NDAs are illegal. It's a personal expense! I am the director of 5 companies and partner of 7 trader accounts and do all the accounts which are then signed off by a chartered accountant. You think Trump's affairs are company business affairs? Under what business category covers Trump having sex with porn stars. Legal costs are written off against tax, porn star costs are not

    You say it was legal then say it was a misdemeanor. See your problem

    Link behind pay wall
     
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