Did Trump care if his hush money affairs would hurt Melania and Ivanka?

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  1. Bowerbird

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    So… no male parent ever showers with his kids?
     
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    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

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    That is right. So what is the issue with those that claim otherwise?? The narrative that claims otherwise makes no rational sense at all.
     
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    He probably has ever even read it.
     
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  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    did you even consider if your examples were apples to apples?

    How can you talk about 'leniency'. If Trump were anyone else, given his incessant bad mouthing the judge, his clerks, his daughter, blah blah, if it were anyone else he'd be in pretrial detention. The system is going way way out of it's way to treat him fairly.
     
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    The real question is: How does the poster KNOW for a FACT that it happened?? Was he present in that shower??

    Sounds like Tabloid GOSSIP .....
     
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    "Did Trump care if his hush money affairs would hurt Melania and Ivanka?"

    I wonder if they had to sign NDA's too?
     
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    we see that Republicans are not really the family values party that they once claimed to be
     
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  8. MiaBleu

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    Probably ;-)
    And one can imagine the prenuptial agreement that Melania signed.:)
     
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    It seems that Trump supporters have a very different value system from the norm. They seem to think that everything Trump does and says is totally acceptable.....and even commendable. ( In that case they are contributing to the deterioration of social , ethical and legal standards )
     
  10. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    And I understand that that is not an argument.
    She doesn't hide the fact that she is a porn star.

    But that fact is Irrelevant to the crime.

    It's not just Daniels, there is corroborating evidence.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Rebuttals that do not rise above 'you're wrong' are not merit worthy arguments.

    In my view, a merit worthy argument makes a claim with a premise, states the case for it, and, if possible, gives sources/links to support it. Your reply falls far short of that mark, and is, therefore, meaningless/vacuous,etc.

    If you can't offer a more merit worthy rebuttal, I am asking you to abstain from posting.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Did you read my post? It wasn't about 'cheating', it was about that he did it while his newly wife had just given birth.

    Men cheat, this has been a fact of life throughout history, but Trump crossed the line when he did that to Melania, she was a newly wed and pregnant.

    No, cheating isn't just cheating. There are limits.

    It's about limits, and if that isn't a limit worthy of rendering a character assessment, I don't know what is, and I won't even mention Trump's toddler grand-nephew who had cerebral palsy whom Trumped kicked off the family health plan just because Donald was sued by Mary Trump.

    It's really about a lot of despicable things Trump has done that no other president has done, sorry to destroy your premise. I'll provide a list with links, if you want. It's a long list.
     
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    Is it a list of Trump policies? We're not voting for a babysitter or a church deacon...
     
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    Boundaries, social norms, ethics etc don't apply to Trump as he considers himself an exception to rules of any kind.
    The silly affair is one thing.....but it is how they tried to cover it up so it would not interfere with the election By trying to hide that information, he was interfering with the electoral process
     
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    Not at a point where they remember and put it in a diary. They'd do it when their child is just a baby, but after at the most 2 years old (most males won't even do it after 1 year old) it is not something a male parent does. At least not a male parent that isn't....disturbed....
     
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    You do know that it came from Biden's daughters own diary, a diary which we KNOW was in reporters hands due to the FBI raids. That alone is confirmation. Also the people that stole the diary confirmed it was her diary stolen directly from the Biden's home and was actually convicted of having stolen it. That also is confirmation just by itself.
     
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    Oh! Come on! You have no idea of the circumstances and you have no proof that was her writing and not something someone else added since the chain of custody is suspect to put it mildly. How do you know that it wasn’t something someone told her when she was older - there is not one mention anywhere else of anything else occurring. The only other mention of feeling uncomfortable was in relation to a neighbour. Given the testimony of Pecker in the Trump trial about how they published deliberately doctored photos of Ted Cruz’s father - how can you be sure the reporting here is correct?
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    At least two different versions of what is purported to be the diary - which one is correct? Subtle differences between the two - come to that Ashley is a Social worker - for all we know she could have been recording what a client told her :roll:

    Question - do you think THIS evidence would stand up in front of a Grand Jury the way the evidence against Trump has?
     
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    There is no crime. Paying money to Cohen for negotiating and NDA is not a crime Sleeping with a Pornstar assuming it ever actually happened may be gross but it isn't a crime, Calling payments to Cohen a legal fee is not a crime so far no one has even testified to anything that approaches a crime.
     
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    if he had not been running for President... it would not of been a crime to pay her hush money

    but why did he choose to pay her hush money after he started to run as a candidate?

    To me, it seems simple, he wanted the Evangelical vote... but jokes on him, they would not of cared had this got out, Adultery with a porn star is not a major sin to them
     
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    Wrong there is no law against doing NDAs when you're running for office.
     
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    I checked - you're still just another poster; no mention of "Post Merit Adductor". You do understand that merit is not based on word count, right? When a post is total garage it merits a dismissive replay - you got it.
     
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    Character matters. We're not talking about common male faults, a fling here and there.

    It's about limits, there are limits beyond which we must consider the candidate's fitness for the office.

    I already told you that, not to mention the fact that before Trump, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
     
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    JFK was not a great president. His assassination makes some people think that.
     
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    It’s not a crime whether he’s running or not.
     
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    What are your metrics for 'a great president'?
     

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