To the anti-Muslim crowd here: what say you of this?

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  1. Castle

    Castle Banned

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    Oh really?!
    Radical Islam is a tiny, and more importantly, insignificant minority?
    Seems you've been drinking a little too much Kool-aid yourself bub!
     
  2. cassandrabandra

    cassandrabandra New Member

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    do you actually know what sharia means?

    it basically means law, and as is the case with our law, includes both civil and criminal law.

    the application of penalties under shariah is not consistent in all societies, and at all times, as is also the case with penalties applied under our laws.

    Islamic jurisprudence is pretty much as complicated as ours in many instances.
     
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    The US extremist Right ARE the new 'Nazis'.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Ok then, prove me wrong.
     
  5. Castle

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    Anjem Choudary of Islam4UK seems fairly well versed on Sharia law.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/8456924.stm
     
  6. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You missed my point...You wrote:

    "maybe if you didn't treat people like dogs, but as human beings, you might find there were lesspeople who were inclined to hate you?"

    just a thought."


    I think that is good advice FOR Muslims as well.
     
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    Sharia law is derived from the divine revelations set forth in the Qur'an. It deals with secular law as well as sexuality, hygiene, diet, prayer and fasting.

    It is applied by Islamic judges (qadis). Sharia makes no real distinction between religion and State. They are the same. It is theocratic which means law is derived from divine principles and is non-secular in practice.

    Although some countries (Mali, Kasakhstan and Turkey) are self declared secular Shari law is still applied to personal and family matters.

    There is a world-consensus among Muslims that Sharia is 'God's Will.'
     
  8. Right Hook

    Right Hook New Member Past Donor

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    Looks like my post went right over your head. It's just an unbiased guesstimate of what would happen if NATO was forced into a war of annihilation with your angry little allies. If you know better, then post up your own assessment, don't just respond with a lame Nazi analogy.
     
  9. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what is the problem?

    The USA's 68 million Catholics are subject to "Pope's Law"! The Pope bans divorce, contraception, premarital sex, abortion, the death penalty, masturbation, so much more!

    And yet, our country and legal system persists. :lol:
     
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    Sharia law is derived from the divine revelations set forth in the Qur'an. It deals with secular law as well as sexuality, hygiene, diet, prayer and fasting.

    It is applied by Islamic judges (qadis). Sharia makes no real distinction between religion and State. They are the same. It is theocratic which means law is derived from divine principles and is non-secular in practice.

    Although some countries (Mali, Kasakhstan and Turkey) are self declared secular Shari law is still applied to personal and family matters.

    There is a world-consensus among Muslims that Sharia is 'God's Will.'

    There...I highlighted the part that would be a big PROBLEM for US.

    That is a copy of my original post, you know, the one that you quoted and then wondered what problem there would be with Sharia law.
     
  11. axuality

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    To say or think that anyone who disagrees with you and the left about Muslim issues are "anti-Muslim" makes you look either ignorant or dishonest.

    That's not a good choice, franklin.
     
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    if you substitute the word "Jews" for "Muslims" it would make you feel uncomfortable.

    Muslims are the new Jews.
     
  13. stroll

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    I think he is a little angry and doesn't like "*******s", who are responsible for all the evil in the world. :p
     
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    Ah it's all bull(*)(*)(*)(*) anyway. The reality is that western financiers, bankers, corporate elites and their mates are (*)(*)(*)(*) scared of Islamic finance systems.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_banking
     
  15. micfranklin

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    You should read some of their posts (or moreso lots of them) and then you'll see why I used the term "anti-Muslim."
     
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    Catholic law is the same. You apparently need to research a little better. And, BTW, Sharia Law has about the same percentage of adherents among Muslims as Catholic law has adherents among Catholics. Note the entire nations you mention that are secular, and much more besides. :lol:

    In the USA, anyone religious can apply the laws they like to THEMSELVES, and to anyone who agrees to have it done.

    But there is no way to have it applied to others unless the majority of voters agrees, AND it is constitutional. Much of Sharia Law is not, and American Fundamentalists prefer their versions of repression.

    We have no worries about Sharia law here (or in Europe, for that matter).

    But banning Muslims is against the US Constitution, so if you wish to be an American, you should get over it.
     
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    America has no 'Catholic law' there are no State Catholic courts and judges.

    No they are not completely secular.

    Not really....It is illegal to stone a person to death in the US for instance...At least so far.

    Segregating a portion of American society and establishing non-secular religious law for them is directly opposed to the Establishment clause.

    How does not allowing State sponsored religious law ban Muslims? Have you read the 'Establishment Clause?' Every religion in the US is subject to that. Why should Muslims be any different?
     
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    Are there beth din in the US? Does Canon Law operate anywhere in the US?
     
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    Your arguments are weak and without logic. If Christians were doing all the killing across the world, you'd be marching in the streets for a ban on Christianity and the jailing of all white people.

    The dictionary defines ENLIGHTENED as educated or informed, unusually wise. I see no correlation to your argument. And frankly, you liberals are the ones demonstrating a stunning lack of insight, truth, and logic,
     
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    But they aren't, nor are Muslims.
    Your arguments are weak and uninformed.

    They consist of generalisations, stereotyping and prejudice.

    Exactly, and it's sadly missing in the Muslim-hate comments of many conservatives here.
     
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    Both are church, not State oriented. Sharia routinely inserts itself into State matters which, here in the US, would go against the Establishment clause.
     
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    .....as has been stated many times by Muslim leaders, Sharia is the divine law that overshadows all so called man made laws. So, it is clear that Sharia would not be tolerated here thankfully.
     
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    Strike two. Same empty rhetoric, repeated in the hope that it'll sound like an answer. It won't. Now tell me, what do YOU THINK would happen if 1.2 billion Muslims got sick of our intolerance, and decided to destroy every square inch of this country?
     
  24. Castle

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    This would be outrageously funny it it weren't for those that seriously embrace this fiction.
     
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    So you can read my mind now? You can jump to that conclusion without giving any rational basis as to why?

    You were the one who just jumped in this thread and went right to making assumptions and generalizations. If I'm not enlightened then there's no fcking way in hell you're even close to enlightened, my all-assuming friend.

    Either do some real research on the subject or don't comment. There's enough unenlightened posts about Islam going on in this thread without you adding to it.
     
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