"We are Mexicans and Americans stole our land."

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  1. Emperor Algol Omega

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    They want my (*)(*)(*)(*) Arizona, they'll have to get through my nukes to get it.

    I say we just give them so-Cal, New Me'h'ico, the South East, and Washington, D.C. under the condition that they give us Mexico.

    You're right, they're not as dangerous... until you consider MS-13, the largest Latino-American gang, is connected to Hezbollah and Hamas.

    Germany lost WW2, sorry. (Though, I'd not mind having Germany own most of Europe. It would certainly have made for some decent competition as opposed to the crap we have now known as the EU.)
     
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    Cant say as I blame you, but right now it is going bit by bit. If the Dems are not gotten the Hell out of office kiss it good bye.



    Deal as long as Obama goes with D.C....:mrgreen:
     
  3. Emperor Algol Omega

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    I know. :(

    Oh no doubt. :D
     
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    You really have a warped PC view of history. The true story of the Texas Revolution and the Mexican American war, the two cannot be separated, is actually a lot grayer.

    1823 - Mexico sees a need to populate its northern territory. It enters into a contract with Stephen F. Austin to bring American settlers into Texas. These settlers would become Mexican citizens.

    1824 - The Mexican constitution of 1824 is ratified creating a free Mexican republic.

    1834 - After much political upheaval General Santa Anna suspends the constitution of 1824 making himself dictator in an attempt to centralize Mexican authority. No less than 11 Mexican states Coahuila y Tejas (Texas)San Luis Potosí, Querétaro, Durango, Guanajuato, Michoacán, Yucatán, Jalisco, Nuevo León, Tamaulipas, and Zacatecas openly rebel against Santa Anna.

    1836 - After crushing rebellion in the rest of the county General Santa Anna invades Texas and is defeated and captured by Sam Houston at the battle of Battle of San Jacinto.

    Santa Anna as dictator of Mexico signs the Treaties of Velasco which recognizes the Rio Grande as Texas southern boarder. This is very important.

    With news the capture of General Santa Anna in Texas his puppet government assumes control. This government refuses to recognize the Treaties of Velasco. In the time that follows Mexico would begrudgingly recognize Texas as an independent state but refused to recognize the Rio Grande as its southern boarder. Instead preferring to recognize its southern boarder as the Naches river, the southern boarder of the original state of Tejas.

    1845 - Texas is willing annexed into the Union.

    1846- American soldiers begin to fortify the southern boarder with the building of Fort Texas at the Rio Grande. Mexico attacks claiming the territory between the Naches and the Rio Grande as Mexican territory. The war is on.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So who did your ancestors steal their land from? If you want to be taken seriously we should do a comparison between your country and the US. I'd be willing to accept your opinions if you could provide evidence that whatever nation you come from rose to its modern status through purely legal and moral methods. If not, you are just another foreign hypocrite, ripping on America and ignoring the evils of your own nation.
     
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    If they hate America so much, deport them to Mexico. Problem solved.
     
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    Agreed! Get the hell out of a country that you detest so much. Illegal immigrants don't belong here anyway.
     
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    As you can see, like Germany Mexico lost the War too.
     
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    We shouldn't let them come here in the first place. Why let people who hate your country live there? Stop all immigration from mx as long as they call us thieves.
     
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    No, Mexico's problem was that it LOST. Powerful allies in a war don't do you much good if you lose the war anyways.

    And when you get right down to the base of the whole thing, Mexico's claim to the land is as spurious as our own. The Spaniards stole Mexico from the natives same as we did with the United States.

    And irregardless of all that, the phrase "Might makes Right" is still the basis of all dealings between nations. Mexico isn't strong enough to take the land back.

    And as long as the citizens of America wake up in time to stop illegal immigration turning the southwest into a Mexican province in all but name, they will never get that land back. Judging by the state of affairs within their own country, I can't imagine why they would want to turn parts of the US back into Mexico anyways.
     
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    I gave him the short version earlier

    That poster is not a student of history, but does regurgitate the Anti-American talking point with ease

    Its from the school of "keep repeating it over and over and eventually the dumbs ones will believe it"
     
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    Thats not a word.

    Are you from Western Pennsylvania?


    Just curious
     
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    I love how these history revisionist circle jerk about land being stolen from Mexico by the US. Ummm, that land never belonged to Mexico in the first place. There are over twenty Indian tribes that called the southwest home before Mexico was even a gleam in history's eye. For (*)(*)(*)(*)'s sake read a god (*)(*)(*)(*) history book.
     
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    Reconquista has been a stated goal for decades. L.A. mayor Antonio Villaraigosa was a member of MEChA, an avowed Aztlanist/Brown Pride organization whose stated goal is to reclaim parts of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, and Nevada. This is not to be a violent revolution, but a very-carefully planned silent invasion. MEChA members occupy many seats in the California assembly and senate such as Gil Cedillo and Fabian Nuñez. In fact, Nuñez was Speaker of the Assembly from 2004-2008 and in 2004, under his leadership, the assembly did not celebrate Independence Day for the first time in memory. The assembly did celebrate Cinco de Mayo that year, however. The highest-placed MEChA member that I know of was California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante who served under Gray Davis and Arnold Schwarzenegger, though certainly the mayor of L.A. has more real political power than the lt. gov., unless the governor can't serve out his term, of course.

    As an aside, Nuñez's adult son was convicted of 2nd degree manslaughter after he stabbed someone to death at a party. Governor Schwarzenegger commuted the sentence this January as one of his final acts before leaving office.

    MEChA is a sworn enemy of the United States, and many of its members have served or are serving in elected office, at least in California.

    Make of it what you will.
     
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    What party are they affiliated with?

    a sworn enemy of America?

    sounds like they have a lot in common with Obama
     
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    They are not affiliated with any political party as far as I know. However, to a man, every one of their members who currently occupies, or has occupied, an elected office in California, is a member of the Democratic Party.
     
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    thanks

    so, another anti-American group is getting elected as "Democrats"

    sadly, thats not shocking
     
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    You really need to read the Aztlanist position--they believe that the land was actually stolen not from Mexico, but from those very tribes you reference--first by Spain, and then again by the U.S.. As I understand it, the MEChA organization swears no allegiance to either the U.S. or to Mexico, though it has chapters in both countries, and I believe others as well.
     
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    There does appear to be an affinity there. ;)
     
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    Troll much?

    Just curious.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

    Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.
     
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    I did not know that. Nevertheless, I think it is impossible for Islamists to overtake the US.

    I am not sure about UK, the Netherlands or Spain e.g. (France, Italy and Germany will at least try to fight them, but we have some Dhimmi countries like the UK over here).



    It would have spared you the Cold War, Corea, Vietnam and so on, but it was your decision.
     
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    Why overtake a nation when you can just paralyze it with fear? ;)

    Not necessarily so. Russia was a threat either way, and Germany had no chance in hell invading Russia even if the Russians had no military at all thanks to Russia's climate and geography (which is why Hitler's biggest mistake was trying to attack Russia since Stalin was Hitler's biggest supporter... besides the fact anyone in history would tell you to never fight a war on two sides).
     
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    They need to deport their butts out of here anyway. I can't stand people that bash America, but if they live her they should be escorted out of the and into the closest country that is whatever (ethnic) they are. If they are ignorant and born here, take them to the country of their choice.
     
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    If you can't stand anyone bashing America, then you say you don't want them to have thier first consuitional right. Basing somebody on ethnicity, is wrong. We have had great leaders, and they weren't just white. U.S. Grant, was friends with the Govoner of New York. The Govonor, was responsible for the second day of Gettysburg, of saving the union flank, from a confederate attack. He was a suberp engineer and later went on to be part of Grant's adminstration. He was an Iroquios. It was pretty big back then, and not everybody wanted him in such a high role.
     
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    WTF are you even talking about??? I am sure they were NOT talking (*)(*)(*)(*) about America way back then. Unless you know something everyone else doesn't.
    And where the hell did you get this "White" thing? Please, try again.
    I don't care if he was a Martian, is he wants to live here and he is illegal...Don't talk (*)(*)(*)(*) about this country!!!
     
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