Report; Hamas and Fatah reconciled.

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  1. johnsiever

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    What occupation? The syrian regime's occupation of its people, oppressing and slaughtering them?
     
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    Which Muslims are expelling NON Muslims?

    Be specific.......
     
  3. Margot

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    Which Muslims are expelling NON Muslims?

    Be specific....... Vague hysteria is insufficient.
     
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    Do you think repeating posts will merit an answer faster?

    Show me a muslim country with a growing christian population. I can name several with quickly declining ones; lebanon, west bank, gaza, iraq, etc.
     
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    NONE of those countries have expelled NON Muslims.. Check your facts ...

    And I can assume that you have never been to Lebanon, the West Bank, Gaza or Iraq.

    Baghdad has 50 .. count em... 50 Christian churches..
     
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    There is a difference between declaring oneself a Christian and merely being a non-Muslim.
    I was born and christened into the catholic 'faith' but I am empatically not a christian, if practising the religion is an indicator.

    A declining 'christian' population may simply be a result of non-declaration of one's beliefs, or otherwise.
     
  7. Abu Sina

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    Latest from Foreign Minister of Egypt

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110429/wl_afp/egyptisraelpalestinianconflictgazaborder

    Al Arabi said in an interview earlier today that Egypt was about to announce very important decisions regarding Gaza in the next few days.
     
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    It's an ILLEGAL blockade.

    Our new government want to start a new chapter doing things the legal way.

    The US and the International community should support all our efforts in moving from a corrupt regime which dealt in 'illegal' to one which is now striving towards 'legal'.

    Nations should practice what they preach.

    Therefore since the blockade is illegal it will be lifted by Egypt in tune with the Egyptian peoples support for the Palestinians in that Illegal Concentration Camp.

    Message to Netanyahu.
    Choose between peace with your fanatical terrorist Shas Party, settlements and zionism or Peace with the world.


    Forget the Hamas Charter and have a look at Nuttyahoos charter!
    http://www.knesset.gov.il/elections/knesset15/elikud_m.htm

    The Likud Charter
    The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.......

    The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.

    The Palestinians can run their lives freely in the framework of self-rule, but not as an independent and sovereign state. Thus, for example, in matters of foreign affairs, security, immigration and ecology, their activity shall be limited in accordance with imperatives of Israel's existence, security and national needs......

    The Golan

    Based on the Likud-led government's proposal, the 10th Knesset passed the law to extend Israeli law, jurisdiction and administration over the Golan Heights, thus establishing Israeli sovereignty over the area. The government will continue to strengthen Jewish settlement on the Golan......
     
  10. MrRelevant

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    Its been open for the better part of a year already.
     
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    http://www.arabicbible.com/christian/intro_arab_christians.htm

    "From the pogroms of Copts in Egypt, the ethnic cleansing of South Sudanese, the oppression of Lebanese Christians, to forced Arabization of the Syro-Mesopotamian Christians, the 20 million non-Arab Christians are systematically targeted. The 0.6 million Arab Christians, including those living within the Jewish state are experiencing one of their most severe choices: Surrender to Islamization, or join the pan-Middle East Christian boat, as a way to survive and maintain their spiritual identity."

    http://www.christiansofiraq.com/arab935.html

    "Their numbers continue to dwindle not just due to natural factors, but because many of them chose, or were compelled, to emigrate. Some fell victims to the constant pressures that escalated to fatal attacks....A survey of the present situation of Christians living in the Middle East demonstrates a problematic and distressing cycle: Arab Christian populations are declining, resulting in an erosion of their political power, which in turn causes their conditions to worsen and ultimately drives them out of their own homeland. This pattern is repeated throughout the region."

    http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/3653.htm

    "Innumerable Injustices Committed against Christians inthe Middle East Are Forcing Them to Leave Their Homes

    "In spite of this, or possibly because of it, a vast stream of Christians has for many years now been thronging out of the Middle East [towards the West]. Some left of their own accord, while others were coerced into emigrating - but all had to leave their home countries, especially Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon, the occupied territories, Sudan, and even Iran."
     
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    Actually it hasn't. It opened temporarily as a result of the murders of the peace activists on the Mavi Marmara and subsequently was closed again.
     
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    Ah yes, Memri. A pro-Zionist propaganda site, '...emphasizes the continuing relevance of Zionism...'.:mrgreen: And the other two sites are hardly non-partisan either...
     
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    As expected, an attack on the sources instead of addressing the fact that muslims are ethnically cleansing non-muslims out of the middle east, and that the population of christians in particular - who predate muslims by centuries - are being reduced quickly.

    It is unfortunate that posters this ignorant choose to be, and stay, that way. Or have an agenda.
     
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    The truth often smarts. If you can find a non-partisan source I'll gladly consider it. As far as 'agendas' are concerned you would have posted something independent if you didn't have one yourself. No?
     
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    The Christian right in the US has taken a page from the Zionist playbook..

    They like to promote the idea that Christians in the ME are persecuted.

    Sabeel in Israel is very strong and they are pro-peace.
     
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    You'll also never hear-especially from the Israelis-that Iran hosts the largest population of Jews, outside of Israel-in the region. Furthermore Iran, that arch-enemy of Israel, protects Jews from persecution under their constitution.
     
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    Christians of iraq is hardly partisan, neither are the other sites. What makes muslims fascists like you squirm is that the arab muslims are ethnically cleansing christians and other minorities out of the middle east, this is a well-known fact.

    I personally know plenty of arab christians who have been forced out of their homes, and the census data in these countries proves my argument.

    If you want to troll with nonsense about attacking the source on rather large and well-known sites, then go play in the sandbox with your other little muslim fascist friends.
     
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    For someone who pretends to know so much about the middle east, you really have no clue.
     
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    Yep.. and until 1948 there was a huge, flourishing Jewish community in Iraq.
     
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    There were lots and lots of Christians in Palestine before 1967..

    Have you been to Palestine, John? Or, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Lebanon, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia or Egypt?
     
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    When you address the ethnic cleansing of christians out of the middle east by muslims, THEN I might care to answer your off-topic, irrelevant question.

    Remember the forum rules, address the topic, not the poster.
     
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    I am a practicing Christian who has lived or had extensive visits in all those countries without incident.. and I am just one among thousands of Americans just like me.
     
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    I was talking to a copt neighbour who lives directly opposite me 2 days ago. They just spent a vacation in Alaska and are considering one shortly in Bahamas I was sitting in their garden when they were telling me about their trip to Alaska. They live next door to another huge copt family ( with a barking dog that drives us all crazy by the way) and another with about 4 children. Next door to me is another christian family. My nearest neighbours are all Christians. Wealthy, travel a lot. Privately educated children. They have maids and drivers and gardeners. Drive new cars and one is an executive in a German/Egyptian printing business.

    They all disappeared for Easter holidays. :sun::mrgreen:

    It was a relief we all Muslims look forward to every single year. Why? We love it when they load their suitcases in their car each year.


    Because the barking dog stops for a week.


    I would imagine that by the look at the women around 1/4 in our compound are Christians because they do not wear hijab otherwise I would have no idea who they were. Their children are out playing with Muslims. We all sit together in the shisha cafe at night together. The families all sit together watching the football on the cafe screen with coffee at night. There is absolutely no tension that I have ever seen. Not one incident.
    All that will change though in a week when the Salafists from Saudi arrive.
    Residents don't go to the cafe in the souk. We keep a close eye on our children playing at night because the Saudi teenage boys harrass them. The men harrass our wives and daughters.

    Our problem is the Saudis for 3 months not the christians all year.

    No ethnic cleansing in my compound!

    You really have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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    A cursory search of the internet using trusted news sources only (Reuters, Associated Press, etcetera) lists plenty of incidents of Muslim persecution of Christians in the Middle East in several countries. Maybe Margot should expand her reading list, or maybe she is just turning the other cheek.
     

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