Why do liberals call themselves "Intellectual Liberals"?

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  1. myview

    myview Well-Known Member

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    I know I'm starting to get off topic,but Why do the poor have more than food , shelter, and clothes in this country? And let me tell you now that I am not a Republican.
    I don't label myself. I am a free thinker.
    And to be fair when republicans were in control abortion was not made illegal and we still had wefare. In fact Clinton cut welfare.
     
  2. akphidelt

    akphidelt Banned

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    Because we are America, we don't compare our citizens to those in 3rd world country's. Having tons of poor people who can't feed themselves is an embarrassment to a developed country. Human capital is the most powerful commodity in the world... and if we have 10-20% of our people unemployed or underemployed we are wasting a lot of productivity.
     
  3. ronmatt

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    Ah, but it seems that the progressives do [compare us] and our POTUS does [compare us]
    Both tend to down play American exceptionalism. We're all just one big happy family. There should be no borders. We all should just be allowed to wander the hills and valleys, paying no allegiance to any American sovereignty. Our 'progressive "intellectuals" know that the time for the the new world order and one world government is at hand. (there, I managed to get us back on topic) They've been 'thinking it through' for decades. Whatever disparity there is in America can be easily abolished with the abolishing of America and that "mythical" American exceptionalism.
     
  4. akphidelt

    akphidelt Banned

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    What is this nonsense you are trying to pass off as intelligence. You must be a philosopher or something.
     
  5. myview

    myview Well-Known Member

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    See now you went to far. ( to stay on topic, how intellegent is the left? REALY) I was asking why they have more than they need. I'm Not saying don't give them anything. Ya see people need motivation. If someone cooks for a person everyday, there is no incentive to cook. If hot chicks show up at your door everyday no need to go look for a wife.
     
  6. akphidelt

    akphidelt Banned

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    It's a balance... of course you are going to have people take advantage of the system. But within those people, there are those that need help, especially at a time like this, there are plenty that genuinely need temporary help before employment opportunities start opening up. Not many people want to live a welfare life in America. They definitely aren't living the dream.
     
  7. myview

    myview Well-Known Member

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    I agree help those who need help getting back on their feet. But those who are not trying or feel that a particular job is not good enough for them those guys need to do without. I would mow lawns to help my family get by if needed.
     
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    Don't get me wrong, I'm not a proponent of poor people. I mean I do have a soft side in me that cares for people. But in terms of economics, those poor people provide a source of productivity that we need. Our economy is most prosperous when the most amount of people have money. We are basically an oligarchy right now.
     
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    There are plenty of idiot liberals and conservatives to go around, I am afraid.
     
  10. James Cessna

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    Truth-Bringer, your comments are very true.

    Please check this out!

    Given the wisdom of these "intellectuals", no wonder our economy is now in so much trouble!

    How Obama Got Elected... Interviews With Obama Voters!
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  11. Titan1024

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    He also cut the payroll taxes that fund Social Security, and is talking of doing it again under the guise of "spurring hiring from small business." And for all his talking of opposing the slashing of unions even more, he sure isn't going around fighting on their behalf.

    He talks a good game, but when it comes time to play ball, he's back in the clubhouse instead of on the field. He'd rather give Republicans everything they've ever wanted instead of even possibly having to get dirty standing for something.
     
  12. liberalminority

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    one good point is that the intellectual conservatives who like profits manipulate the rural country backwoods republicans into voting against their own interests.

    many poor conservatives would benefit from free health care and government assistance.

    the intellectual liberals care about their poor constituents who often don't vote.
     
  13. Daybreaker

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    Like. Wait. Are we talking, y'know, Platonic intellectuals, or post-Cartesian?
     
  14. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know, most of their base are uneducated immigrants.
     
  15. James Cessna

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    Unfortunately, our government today has turned our nation into a "nanny" state. We have absolved all Americans of any responsibility when to comes to planning and paying for their own retirement, their own medical care and for saving and paying for their kid’s education.

    To show you how silly things have become, we have friends and neighbors in our community where the husband has been laid off and the wife has a good job and continues to work. The men have realized they can stay home and dray unemployment insurance which today amounts to about 60% of their after tax income after their payroll deductions for taxes and other expenses are factored in.

    Their attitude is, "Why should I look for a job in today's environment when I can sleep late every morning, play golf with my friends do what I want to do and still draw 60% of my take home pay, courtesy of the U.S. taxpayers.

    This is what the liberal Democrats in Congress have done and continue to do to our national attitudes that once made this nation great!
     
  16. ronmatt

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    I don't know that I necessarily agree with your assessment of 'the American worker'. At least as it applies to my community. I live in a small town. (less than 30K population) There are (were) two 'large employers' here. A moderately sized hospital and a large web printing company. Both small businesses by national standards, but large by community standards. About the time of my retiring from the printing company, the unemployment problem started kicking in. Shifts were cut from 3 to 2. departments were run by skeleton crews. My department, pre-press, went from 25 people with tons of overtime to 4 people with no overtime and drastic cuts and elimination of benefits (profit sharing, employer contributions to 401 K, accrued hours for vacation and sick leave.) I see one or more my ex-fellow workers almost every day. Quite a few of them have simply given up looking for work. They are 'skilled workers', trained in their vocations. There is no company within 150 miles that is either hiring , planning to hire or even accepting applications or resumes. These people want to work. Most have been in their trade for many years and have been earning a very good wage. Although there may be one or two single people that are satisfied spending their lives watching Oprah and guzzling beer all day, generally, the others would virtually kill to 'get back to normal' lives.
    Being successfully responsible for oneself is a pretty strong impulse. It trumps waiting for some check to come in the mail every two weeks or breaking out that 'welfare debit card' when you go shopping. I don't think you give the American worker enough credit. Very, very few are content with the situation they've been forced to live with if they're on unemployment.
     
  17. algranny

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    I'm not convinced of that, where is the data to back that up. Obamas records are all sealed, we have only his word on that, that is not enough for me!
     
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    Says it all....self interest at play in the guise of compassion.
     
  19. myview

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    Not true, they pockets full of money. And I don't see any of it coming my way.
     
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    Liberal intellectualism has become a Marxist circle jerk of voodoo sciences that push people to rely on the government and weaken the concept of individualism.
     
  21. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Applying book learning to real life is always the hard part, Obama gets a D- on that.
     
  22. devilsadvocate

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    best post of the week. I agree 100%.

    its getting extremely embarrasing to be a conservative, and its very difficult sometimes to say that I am conservative, because of the general public thought, that we are all like these christian neocons, they give us such a bad name.

    thanks :)
     
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    Too funny. Liberals, even the educated ones, vote for Democrats because they are stupid. Moreover, you permeate the tune by chanting "Conservatives don't care about the poor"....

    You'll sing that tune, but akphidelt will never go out on his own to teach, and persuade individuals to take care of themselves. Why? Because it's not the individuals fault. So, in that light, you'll always leave it up to someone else (a liberal politician) to try to level the playing field off someone else's dime, and when it doesn't happen, you'll pull no punches in sitting back biiiitching about it.

    Perhaps that is the most pathetic aspect of your liberal thought processes.
     
  24. ronmatt

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    'I think...therefore, I am not a liberal'.
    Liberal creed. 'Why bother to think things through, It's much easier to simply react'.
     
  25. EZ-E

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    Not only that, but it's apparently much easier to have someone else do the work for them.
     

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