People Who Refuse To Donate Their Organs Should Be Banned From Recieving One

Discussion in 'Other Off-Topic Chat' started by Makedde, Jun 20, 2011.

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Should People Opposed To Organ Donation Be Banned From Recieving One?

Poll closed Sep 28, 2011.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are not equivalent. And none of those will increase donorship. None of those will increase the amount of lives saved, but instead decrease them.
     
  2. MisLed

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    You put remarkable value on your old used and ancient skin and body parts. It may be that no one will find you useful and you'll just be disposed of.

    You are going to direct how your GIFT of organs are distributed. Well GOOD LUCK with THAT!! :mrgreen:
     
  3. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    (U.S. Income Tax Non-payers)

    Yes... there are a lot of people like that. We call them Democrats here.

    Yup. Glad to see you come around Mak.
     
  4. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    it shouldn't be the same, money and organs.

    money should be shared, it shouldn't be comparable to life saving organs
     
  5. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Money should be shared... my time, my accomplishments, my luck -- my life... this is money. What claim do you have on my life that you demand I give a portion to you?
     
  6. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If it's a matter of priority then yes, it is equivalent. And so what if it's not equivalent? Why should your self-proclaimed moral superiority drive the rules over what other people want done with their organs?
     
  7. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is not equivalent, as explained. My self-proclaimed moral superiority rules only what I want done with mine, and for the betterment of all. Thank you for playing.
     
  8. Mozart

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    I would rather die than take someone's organ.

    No addmittance of any other DNA into my bloodstream.

    Mine is superior.
     
  9. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    money cannot save a life, it is different from life saving organs
     
  10. Eighty Deuce

    Eighty Deuce New Member Past Donor

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    Ouch ! That's like a kick to the groin of liberals .... and brilliant :)
     
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    Eighty Deuce New Member Past Donor

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    Mak, I think that awareness to organ donation is still growing, especially to incude more ways to become a donor. Here in the states, many states enable the choice to be made when getting or renewing a driver's license. That's a good thing, and I think it will expand, both with the administrative hurdles, and also the medical, making it more viable for all.

    As many have noted, we cannot have in place a hurdle that requires potential recipients to have somewhere filled out a card, etc. I have to speculate, but I believe that you or I, regardless, if we have enabled our organs to go to others, only hope that they make a difference in keeping anyone alive.

    Put another way, if my organs are capable of being harvested, and I end up extending the life of a black, a gay, a Muslim, and a liberal .... its cool ;)
     
  12. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then the whole argument for Obamacare goes out the window.
     
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    old timer New Member Past Donor

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    Which is exactly where it should go. Right out the window and into the trash can.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Nothing wrong with Obamacare, except that it isn't what America should have.
     
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    Bluespade Banned

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    Check and mate, right there.
     
  16. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Problem is I do pay taxes. If I didn't, I wouldn't have to file a tax return each year.
     
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    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A person who puts a dollar in the pot and takes out ten isn't paying taxes. They're receiving them.
     
  18. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    I just found out that I paid $2,578 in tax this last financial year. And you say I haven't paid taxes?
    Don't insult me by assuming something that isn't true.

    Anyone who earns $25,000 in a year WILL pay tax.
     
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    More totalitarianism??? Geez louise.

    I'm an organ donor, but that's MY choice.
     
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    What about someones religious belief? Why discriminate?
    Many folks are afraid to be on a list.... Its a sick world. Many have donor cards in there wallet or purse, they are not on record as being donors.
     
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    Exactly. Not everyone can donate blood even if they want to. They are strict and they should be. I cannot give blood because I have had jaundice once. The question is on their form. Anyway, I tried.
     
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    I can't count the number of time I have donated blood. I started when I was 18.. I was never asked to donate. By the way I was 18 a long time ago.
     
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    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In 2009, Australia had a population of 21 million and spent $338 billion. The Australian government costs $16,000 per person. A person who puts $2,578 in the pot and takes out $16,000 isn't paying taxes. They're receiving them.
     
  24. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Blah blah blah. I really wish some Americans would stop blathering about something they know nothing about. I pay taxes, I put in a tax return, so don't try and tell me that I live solely off the (*)(*)(*)(*)ed government. I live in this country, therefore I know more than those who don't.

    Besides, what does your post say about America? How many people would you say live off the government there? Quite a lot I would imagine considering the number of people over there, about ten times more than the population here.

    You are yet to tell me where this magic government money comes from. Do you mean to say that McDonalds is actually the government? Going by your logic, the entire staff, including the managers, all live solely off the government.

    Your opinion is wrong.
     
  25. Taxpayer

    Taxpayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most of the money the government spends that you do not pay, comes from your neighbors. I thought that was obvious.

    I did not say soley. A child who puts three pennies on the table when the family dines at the local restaurant does not live soley off of charity. But neither is she paying for the meal.

    That you got the suggestion "McDonalds is actually the government" from my statement "A person who puts $2,578 in the pot and takes out $16,000 isn't paying taxes. They're receiving them" demonstrates you are not going off my logic... or logic of any kind.

    In 2009, the Australian government spent $16,000 per person. The U.S. government spent $10,000 per person. We have democrats in the whitehouse, it's possible we will catch up to you.

    While I look forward to reminding you of your bold assertion "I live in this country, therefore I know more than those who don't" many times in the future (often in the context of American politics)... there is ultimately a flaw in it. Where you happen to live is quite unrelated to how much knowledge you might possess.
     

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