What the hell is the Greek People's Problem?

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  1. tennisdude818

    tennisdude818 Banned at Members Request

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    It's time to default, no austerity. Let the market create austerity for them. This is a bailout for the bankers who loaned them money, not the Greeks. Anyone who cries "socialists" but then supports the bailout and austerity are anti-free market themselves. Loaning money to Greece was risky and stupid, and the banks lost. Now they want to socialize the loses on the backs of the Greeks. No, this is the criminal banking cartel's problem.
     
  2. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have survived multiple crisises. I don't see your point. Can you please be kind enough to translate the statement, not often do I beg for help on my own ignorance... I put my own pride in your hands for a few moments. It might be fun to see what you do with it.

    To the real point, have fun with the above, as you deserve to.

    The real point has always been the ability of the EU to be a functional entity. there is zero proof that it is. Here we see a failing member state and nobody rushing to their aid. What sort of Union is that? The US has no place in this game, none. Where is Greece looking though? the US and IMF. Where the heck is the EU? You don't want to realize that the EU has yet to really survive a single instance of counter interests of other member states. This is the first, and where is the EU?
     
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    Please, do not put your own pride in my hands again, it is disgusting.

    As to the EU, it is where it is, and it has already survived many instances of counter interests of other member states. Greece is a sovereign state, if they want help, they need to ask for it, just as New Orleans did after Katrina.
     
  4. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ha, that's kind of you. did you give the flaming quote or not? Don't worry, my pride and ego cannot be handled by a single mortal, so have no fears about being disgusted, it was meant as a kindly gesture.

    the EU has proven nothing. This is a moment for them, and they are failing. Who did they ask to help out on Kosovo? How big is Kosovo? Who was running out of bombs for Libya? It sure wasn't the US, oh that's right it was the EU nations...

    Anyway, nice as you seem to be, you happen to not understanding much of the world.
     
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    Over through your Government. Sell some assets (land) get in the drug business. Problem solved.
     
  6. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    There is proof of the of EU being a fuctional entity as their Euro currency is rising in value over the US dollar for a long time now.

    Everyone in the markets are betting Greece will get bailed out but will have to take a pay cut.
     
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    The Euro is staying up because of Germany, France, etc. If these countries left the Euro would fail. Hard.
     
  8. Veni-Vidi-Feces

    Veni-Vidi-Feces New Member

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    It's a house of cards the EU is playing with. Greece falls and/or leaves the game what's to stop the next country from leaving?

    It really could lead to a fiscal Civil War for the EU, and they need to tread very very lightly, if the Euro is to be taken seriously as a world currency for the long term.
     
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    Forgive me if I turn to someone else in order to understand the world... Just to let you know, Canada and Norway are not part of the EU.
     
  10. 1984society

    1984society Banned

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    The Euro is NOT going to be a wold currency. My thought is that much of East and South Asia will be united into a sovriegn economic zone. This will spread into Russia. America will have to recongnize the new Currency as well.
     
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    The US asked Europe for help. They came to ask Europe for help with their war against Iraq, too. It's not that they actually needed help, Americans only did not want to be the only villains.
     
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    Volker New Member Past Donor

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    The Euro was not meant to be a world currency. This doesn't mean, there won't be a world currency one day.
     
  13. Veni-Vidi-Feces

    Veni-Vidi-Feces New Member

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    You're right it already is a "wold" (world) currency. I would speculate removing internal trading the Euro is the second most traded currency on the planet. Only because of apprehension the international community has over the Chinese artificially devaluing the Yaun.
    Just because you suggest some sort of future currency that may usurp the Euro in stature down the road, that does nothing to the Euro's standing now.

    That and I doubt the Asians cooperate economically, there is a lot of LONG history of animosity between most of the nations of Asia.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gods child, of course they are not. How could we have you (*)(*)(*)(*)ed Canuks as the other barbarians at the gates if you were a part of the socialist dream called EU?

    I think you take me much too seriously. Lighten up, it will be more fun.

    On a side note YOU NEVER GAVE ME THE QUOTE... I want to know...
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What conflict of interests have they surpassed? I would love to know that, not in the lesser member states, as they actually have those, but as a real UN.
     
  16. Veni-Vidi-Feces

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    http://translate.google.com/

    just a guess, but I am assuming his lack of humoring your translation request is because it is so very easily resolved on your own?

    The interwbez is amerzing.
     
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    But socialist policies are the problem!
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would any self-respecting American care about what those people say? I asked a question,, twice, and got no response. If not a single low-life in Canada can answer then they are worthy of nothing but a classification as the "other (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up barbarians at the gates".
     
  19. Veni-Vidi-Feces

    Veni-Vidi-Feces New Member

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    Yeah but he/she won the debate point when pointing out that it was the state motto on the flag of the state you got up there. Your counter that you've only been there a few months saved face a little, but one should know their states motto I suppose....

    Looking up own states motto just to be on safe side :D
     
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    We will see the same thing in the US soon enough.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That link was unhelpful. It only told me pardon, which is or shouldn't be an option for weird Frechy type separisitsts that can't even get support from France. Either try a new link, or at least grab the balls of the nearest queer you must huddle around and give an answer. You fail, again. Don't make it embarassing for you...
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why should any decent minded American give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about Canadian provinces? They are worthless until we annex them for the resources they have been holding for us.

    Don't worry too much, it really is simply a matter of time. Whacky liberals, and those danmed Canadians haven't realized it yet. They will, and it will be a delight to see. (*)(*)(*)(*) those presumptious bastards.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1) We already own most of Canada so there is not much point in annexation
    2) The current prime minister .. Steven Harper.. is a religious right wing conservative.

    Kind of wierd that the Canadians have gone conservative and the US liberal.

    In any case .. just wanted to throw some light onto the darkness.
     
  24. Veni-Vidi-Feces

    Veni-Vidi-Feces New Member

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    Awe google let you down with their translator....

    I would feel for ya but I can't reach. I was not challenging you, or even suggesting I knew the answer to your question, but that it should not be hard to track down ITS ON THE FREAKING FLAG OF MINNESOTA.

    This is embarrassing for you not me. I was merely trying to good naturedly point you in a direction to get your answer, and you claim I fail, then slander me with a gay smear, when you tried it and did not get your answer?

    I will offer you nothing, and apologize for trying to help in the first place.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Annexation simply makes the transitions easier. They have always been our toy, its not like the Commonwealth can do anything about it.

    The Canadians are socialist scum that have no respect for freedom, our annexation of them would be a blessing.

    As a side note, for those Canadians that seek freedom, we will be there, soon enough...
     
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