Media And Left Prepare To Raise Marco Rubio Natural Born Citizen Questions.

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  1. Political Mudslinger

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    The article headline 'Coming Soon: Rubio Birthers' is correct. If Marco Rubio enters the race for President or is picked to be a VP nominee, the media and left are preparing to raise eligibility questions that he isn't a natural born citizen because he was born 4 years before his parents became a naturalized citizen which disqualifies him from being eligible to be president or vice president. His parents were legal residents at the time of his birth but they weren't U.S. citizens. It is said that your parents have to be U.S. citizens in order to be considered a natural born citizen. Marco Rubio is considered a rising star in the GOP and would make a considerable contender but I personally think he doesn't have the executive experience to lead the country. He is young and needs to stay right where he is in the senate where he can be more effective.





    http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/24/coming-soon-rubio-birthers/

    News media taking stance on Marco Rubio eligibility
    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=337385#ixzz1W0HRRO4q


    Marco Rubio was born a Cuban Citizen via his parents.
    http://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/20...r-of-senator-marco-rubio-who-was-born-in-may/
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like hes a political pawn used to build support in the republican party for amnesty.

    Boot em, if its true.
     
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    I have no problem if he does not meet the eligibility requirements, then he won't get the nod. The only issue will be that the media that refuse to look into Obama will go wall to wall with this for Obama. Only problem I have is the obvious double standard, because I do not believe that Obama father was a citizen was he? I know he went to school here but was he a citizen? Now obviously Rubio has has much experience if not more the Obama so if you supported him that would be a serious problem for you not me. What you mean to say is that you don't agree with him on the issues, that is fine but it takes a very low person to have such a double standard.
     
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    No, Obama's father was a British National. He wasn't a U.S. citizen. It is a double standard isn't it?
     
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    Theyre counting on you to use that argument.

    Youre too sexy to be a pawn.
     
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    If he was born in the US and is a US citizen, he is a natural born citizen.

    It's interesting that all the links provided that say that the "media and left" are preparing to raise the Rubio NBC question are all right-wing birther sites.

    Meanwhile, not a peep from "left" sites.
     
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    Obama was born on US soil. Obama's mother is a US citizen. He'd be a natural born citizen no matter where in the world he was born.

    Rubio was born on US soil. Rubio is a natural born citizen. Anyone want to bet that the only threads that will be created questioning Rubio's citizenship will come from the right-wing on this forum?
     
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    So why was there a issue with McCain then if it doesn't matter where in the world where you were born? Didn't they have to have some type of hearing to make sure he was a natural born citizen even though he was born to American parents?
     
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    If you go by the law on the books at the time, if he was born outside the US then he would not have been born a US citizen.
    However, if you go by the 14th Amendment as the writers intended and not the way it's been unconstitutionally misinterpreted by the courts, then his father being a British subject kept him from being born a US citizen even if he was born on US soil.
     
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    Do you actually mean that it kept him from being a natural born citizen instead of U.S. citizen?
     
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    I'm sure that's probably it
     
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    Ya know this stuff always cracks me up.

    Reagan once joked about the "right hand not knowing what the far right hand is doing" and I never truly quite "got it" until recently with the rise of the radical right.

    People are starting to question ideas and precepts that were put to bed over a century ago. What is this obsession with 19th century ideology all the sudden?

    I was listening to Shelby Foote's A Civil War narrative the other day and there was the scene of Jeff Davis standing before the Senate, giving his reasons for why he was resigning his office and going back to Mississippi.

    Listening to the speech, I could only think one thing.. "Ron Paul? Is that you?"

    These issues were settled over 100 years ago.. why are we dragging up things from the grave like Wong Kim Ark, Secessionism, etc..

    Illegal Immigration is a major concern. We all would like to see it controlled, but we simply cannot go reinterpreting 100+ year old case law that has been accepted for generations.

    Everyone wants to interpret the Constitution in their own way, and I understand that, but the radical right is literally, IMO, starting to sound closer to anarchists than Conservatives because they are literally questioning the legitimacy of literally EVERY SINGLE institution in America. It's counter productive to the pragmatic governance of America.

    I swear it's like libertarians and their ilk don't even want a federal Government to exist anymore.
     
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    the GOP wont mind...

    I mean the current presidential front runner for the GOP is an anchor baby...so its obviously not an issue
     
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    It`s been like that for a looooong time...
     
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    A minor controversy. McCain was born to US citizen parents on foreign soil. The 14th Amendment covers those born on soil but there is nothing in the Constitution that explicitly states that a person born overseas to US citizens is born a US citizen other than US Code which is accepted by the majority of the "left". Not so much by the birthers, however.
     
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    No, being a citizen at all.
    The 14th Amendment covers citizenship in general. But, it doesn't mention natural born citizens.
     
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    And what I'm telling you is how the writers of the 14th Amendment interpreted their own Amendment.
     
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    I have not seen anyone but conservatives make this argument- on these boards that would include Keymanjim and Flanders. You include links to WND, which is a conservative pseudo news site, which would say that Rubio is not eligible because of his parents.

    Frankly, except for a few nut jobs- from what i have seen are all either radical conservatives or white supremicists- no one is claming that Rubio- or Jindal would not be eligible. Everyone who was raised in the United States knows that anyone born in the U.S. is a natural born citizen and can aspire to grow up and be elected President.

    What were the qualifications that you learned growing up?

    Anyway- of course Rubio is eligible if he was born here.
     
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    Only in Keymanjim's world.

    In the real world, anyone born in the United States is a citizen- as per the plain language of the 14th Amendment. Anyone except the children of diplomats and of foreign invading armies. And there are millions of passport carrying Americans that would disagree with you.
     
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    Wasn't he born on a "US controlled" tract of the Panama Canal, thus making him a "natural born citizen"?

    :?:
     
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    " All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside"
     
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    That say's citizens though, not natural born citizens.
     
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    I that really necessary to label people who have their own opinions. I just think it's uncalled for?
     
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    Why now? He's not running. Anyway, if this turns out like the "Coffee party" did, it will vanish like the first snow of winter.
     
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    Romneys the one you should be worried about

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