Hi guys, I think we already have enough threads which show how evil Turkey is to Kurdistan - thanks to our beloved Kurdish members. Indeed, Turkey has been aggressive to the region for quite some time. But really Turkey is that bad? I mean, is there anything good Turkey has done to Kurdistan really? Let's examine. Let's go back to the gulf war (1990-91). Iraq lost and Saddam was weak. The Kurds thought that it was exact time to rebel - after the struggle Saddam crushed the rebellious Kurdish groups so badly. Millions of innocent Kurdish civilians who feared another genocidal campain of Anfal moved to the Turkish border to get help from Turkey. At this moment The US and the allies immedietely organized a millitary operation to protect the Kurdish region from Saddam. The operation was two part, first was a no-fly-zone (in north of the 36th parallel), excuted by the US, the UK and France jets from the Turkish NATO bases. Second part was humanitarian assistance to help the civilians. This was executed by the ground troops of NATO, including the Turkish army and the humanitarian aids were mostly the Turkish products. Meanwhile the Kurdish leader Barzani was provided with the Turkish passport for diplomatic travels. So the operation succesfully provided comfort to the region, hence named Operation Provide Comfort. The coin of the operation: As you can see, the Turkish flag in the sky, indicating the importance of the Turkish role. The operation ended in 1996 after the Turkish request. And then a new operation -Operation Northern Watch- began in 1997 as the successor. This time France left, so Turkey, the US and the UK provided the jets and troops, which means that the Turkish army actively protected Kurdistan! The operation was closely monitored by the Turkish parliement too. This operation ended in 2003. When Iraq was becoming finally a free nation. As a side note, during 1991-2003, many products the Kurds were consuming were Turkish. Though I don't think that the Kurds should be thankful to Turkey, Turkey has done what one should do. That's alright. But saying that Turkey wants to destroy/commit genodice against/kill the Kurds, is not cool. Thanks.
Thank you for the thread. Unfortunately it sounds too pro-Turkish and friendly and doesn't show Kurds victim enough so I assume it will be ignored by the dramaqueens and sink to bottom of section. Thank you anyway.
This is more of a reference thread. There's actually not so many things here to discuss. I merely stated facts. So you can safely reference this thread when needed.
This is pure BS. The only reason Turkey maintained a military presence was PKK, since the 90's was pretty much the height of the PKK-Turkish army war. While this guy only provides words and uses himself as a source I will post neutral videos and you will see how 'tolerance' the Turks were in 91. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZbjCH4XM2s"]Kurdistan Zaxo 1991 turkiya blahe 1 - YouTube[/ame]
You will show me a source that points to a camp in Turkey, that camp had less than 30,000 people in it while there were over a million people on the border so no I'm not interested in your link. The video shows clearly how badly people were treated by your armed forces, nothing you can say or provide will refute that as it is hard evidence.
I think you got it wrong. I am not talking about the camps in Turkey. In fact one of the key reasons of the operation was also to keep the Iraqi Kurds out of Turkey because Turkish Kurdistan was not safe either. Turkey helped the Iraqi Kurds in Iraqi Kurdistan. Please read about Operation provide Comfort and Northern Watch.
Like I said, the sole reason was the PKK, but obviously Turkey wouldn't admit that was the reason and fortunately for them at the time there was an excuse to use so they took the option.
Come on Ideas. Your whole reasoning is that Turkey can't be friendly to Kurdistan, so the reason must be the PKK at best! Turkey supported Kurdistan millitarily and economically because of PKK? Does that make sense to you? Just help you to understand the situation better. In the early 90's PKK camps were in the Beqaa valley controlled by Syria then -far from Northern Iraq, If you are curious. And main fight betwen Turkey and PKK took place in Turkey. But after Turkey threated Syria to smash Beqaa valley, Syria immedietely forced PKK to leave. Then PKK came to the Northern Iraq in 1998. Then Qandil. Hope it helps.
Well, you don't just only insulted Turks, but also insulted Kurds so badly. Kurds are strong people and don't easily surrender.
It doesn't help Albert. You can't ridicule everything in every possible way. It's not cool. Grow a good sense of humor.
Maybe you're right. Why does a Turk use a mosaic of a Byzantine emperor (Justinian?) as his avatar? That indicates a sense of irony.
I just love your random questions! Answer is simple. Because I am not a medieval minded person. Whatever happened happened in my country and what we have now Byzantines, Ottomans, Hittites et cetera, all of them are historical values of Turkey. Justinian was one of the few people what makes Istanbul (Constantinople then) Istanbul, where I was born and raised. I equally love Mehmet the Conqueror though, they are so unique historical figures. What about your country?
The descendants of the Byzantines, i.e., the Greeks, were driven out of Turkey in the 1920s. American Indians once ruled America, but the same thing happened to them that happened to the Armenians.
