Jimmy Carter and now Barack Obama – a national disgrace

I agree. Nothing bad happened between Carter leaving office and Obama becoming president... besides a multi Trillion dollar pointless war, but other than that nothing else... I think.

 

You forgot to mention the $14.7 trillion debt Obama and the Democrats have run up on his watch.



The foolish Democrats are debt addicts and just don't know when to stop spending! With the Federal debt of $14.7 trillion amounting to $185,000 for every family of four, at some point we have to concede that the federal checkbook has its limits. Cuts in spending are only a start, other programs need to be abolished or radically changed. ... The old guard Democrats and old guard Republicans have been in Congress far too long. They are too beholden to special interest groups to have the good of average, typical Americans in mind.

 

You see a 50% chance of another U.S civil war? I'm sorry to be so forward but are you an idiot?

 

Dude, you're using WorldNetDaily, a.k.a. right-wing fringe central, as your source...Carter was awful, but truth is, most 18th and 19th century Presidents were worse than Carter, Bush and Obama combined by a factor of 10. People who put Carter, Bush and Obama right at the bottom, no matter how either awful (Carter, Bush) or disappointing (Obama), have no grasp of history. Try living under Presidents like Martin Van Buren, Franklin Pierce, Millard Filmore, or Zachary Taylor.

 

you are funny, tehduder.

This is a typical and frequently used ploy by members of the far Left.

When you can't attack the message, you instead attack the messenger.

Sad ... very sad.

Please tell me, if you can, why you actually believe Jimmy Carter was a good president.

Ah-Ha! I was right, dude!

You cannot!

 

I never said Carter was good, you're twisting my words like the rest of the loony-right (I don't like saying these to refer to the opposition, I'm just giving a different spin on what you've said to me...) Carter did make this country miserable, he brought us to it's knees and allowed us to elect the man which laid the groundwork for our current economic crisis, but...trust me, Presidents like Martin Van Buren, Zachary Taylor or Millard Filmore were worse than Obeezy, Carter, and Dubya several times over. It's just that we can't understand that because Americans sadly don't like history (as shown by Palin's interpretation of Paul Revere's Midnight Ride), and we're kind of spoiled so we often make things sound even worse than they are...


Even under Obeezy, Dubya and Carter, most people could still keep roofs over their heads and survive...there was constant true, justified fear under the likes of Taylor, Filmore, Harrison or Van Buren. The vast majority of the 19th century was pure hell for most Americans...

Besides, you keep on calling me leftist, but I don't support the Democrats and I'm closer to a Libertarian. I'm a straight social liberal (like Libertarians or what Republicans used to be before the neo-conservatives swooped in and ruined everything) and while I split with Libertarians over issues like taxation, I still agree with a lot of their basic principles. I support a simplified tax code, believe we should scale down our military empire in order to improve our situation here and believe the government's current form of involvement in the economy is impeding small business growth and keeping the largest entities from actually competing or being held accountable (there is a place for some central planning, but the current form we have is tailed to the pleasures of oligarchs, as all measures show Bush and Reagan had heavily regulated economies, just in different ways.)

 

Don't patronize me or be petulant. It's a bore.
Socialist? Obamacare.
Oh yeah - and he's a democrat. The current D party IS socialist. How many Dem Congressmen and women belong to the America Socialist Party? About 70.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/08/socialist_party_of_america_rev_1.html

List:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...f-70-congressional-democrats-in-their-caucus/

If you say so :rolls:

That's not a very nice thing to say about Obama's supporters. But if you say so...

 

Carter is a discrace, obama is an enemy.

 

You are very correct, Trinnity.

Here is one of the biggest, most vile and misguided socialists of all.



"My name is Representative Maxine Waters and I am a flaming liberal. And as a flaming liberal and a Democratic Socialist I must tell you the money in your savings and checking accounts does not actually belong to you. Instead, your money, the money you have worked so hard for, collectively, belongs to the federal government! This is why I support increasing our income tax rate to 70 percent like it was in the good old days before the Republicans were in charge of tax policy!” Here is another very liberal Democrat a lot of people would like to "b$tch-slap" some common sense into!

 

The Political Compass actually pins Obama and the vast majority of the Democratic Party as closer to center right (http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2008)...he has some Progressive ideals, but he is far from a Socialist.


Bernie Sanders, Cynthia McKinney, Barbara Lee, Dennis Kucinich, Maxine Waters, Ralph Nader, now those are socialists...

 

Any Republican who supports the tea party or deficit reduction without tax increases.

 

Why on earth, tehduder, would you even consider defending the policies and mindset of Jimmy Carter?

You cannot defend the indefensible.

I respect the fact you are a libertarian. However, in all due respect, you need to examine your positions much more critically.

For example, you want to scale down our military. That's all fine and dandy, but how would you create new jobs for all the millions of newly displaced workers in the private sector? How would you create jobs for all the millions of people with families that would be released from the military?

What many people do not understand or appreciate is our military budget has always acted like a “safety valve” for our economy. Our military serves a much greater purpose than only a force to fight aggressive people and aggressive governments who would do us harm.

When times are good, the military budget can be scaled down. When the unemployment rate in the private sector is high, we must scale up our military spending to absorb and train qualified people who are temporarily out of work in the private sector. Without the military working as a safety valve, our national unemployment rate would be much closer to 20% than to 9.1% as it is now.

 

Sounds like a good idea to me!

How about you?