Good Grief, a 7 year old transgender with transgender "dad"

Tim Petras said at the age of 2 that he was a girl. He had a full sex change operation at the age of 16. Kim Petras is now 19. Lived as a girl for around 15 years - how can anyone decide this child is mentally ill? You don't just decide to be a girl for a decade, do you?

 

Yeah, I tho't so. LM said 'transvestite' and wanted to make sure I got the labels right.......

I've seen enuf in the cities and have a few in my little city and I have only one thing to say ........ I am so GRATEFUL that my son is straight.....

 

If they are practicing, I'd assume they have all the credentials they need.

Just because this kid is transgender doesn't mean he got it from his dad. Yes, the dad could be influencing the child in some way - but if the boy has been examined by experts, trained to deal with this kind of thing, then I am inclined to trust them on this one.

Kids can speak at 18 months, and he might not have said 'I want to be a boy' but it could have been implied in other ways. An 18 month old knows what sex they are. They can look at their sister and ask why they don't have the same bits as they do.

The child is 7 now. If he wasn't transgendered, wouldn't you think he'd have gotten sick of the whole charade?

You have seen zero scientific basis of this expert, and yet you assume you know more than they do.

 

Oh come on, if he was gay, at least you'd have your own personal stylist and maybe a hairdresser if you were lucky! (gay guys are the best hairdressers, btw)

 

IF. Your making an assumption that they are. Where is the proof.

trust who? Her dad who is a transvestite that says some expert said something. This is third hand information. No where is there testimony from this so called expert directly to any news person.

You have seen zero scientific basis of this expert and your assuming he/she is an expert. Where is this expert that this it gal keeps talking about. No expert has said a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing. Your taking the word of a transvestite.

 

Yeah, I read a little of this Kim's story......

Say what you want, but I will NEVER believe that an 18 month old baby or even a 2 yr old decided they wanted to be the opposite sex .... and no, they don't have the 'memory' of this desire or wish either.

This was slowly spoon-fed to them thru out their childhood....called brainwashing.......

 

Well, my son has a more valuable talent - give him some wood and he can make anything out of it, besides being a great artist... he has a mumma who's very proud of him........ and I have a very good female hairdresser.

 

Question - does a 2 year old child decide they wish to be a Christian, or does the parent make that decision for them? If the parent makes that decision, why is one instance of brainwashing acceptable, but another is not?

I ask because I believe that if one is opposed to brainwashing, they should be opposed to it in all cases - not just a few.

I don't have kids, so I don't know what this child said, or wants. But he'd 7 years old now. Kids don't have a long attention span. It'd get boring for them to keep up the same old charade day in, day out. I think I believe this kid when he says he's a boy.

 

OK.. I was just reading this thread... not sure I wanted to register until now. But after reading this I really had no choice. My hand was forced.

Are you serious? You really believe those things mentioned above are signs of homosexuality in a child? You do realize that we are not born with toys... right? Girls are not born in pink.. with barbie dolls and boys are not born in blue with GI Joe and Tonka toys. Our preference in toys has little or nothing to do with our sexuality and more to do with social conditioning, peer group, and marketing.

A little girl with older brothers may very likely ignore Barbie in favor of whatever toys her brothers are playing with. That is not an indicator that she will some day want to sleep with other females. A little girl with a mother who thinks she is a man is likely to also believe she is a boy. If mom is a man then little girl is a boy. It is a logical connection for a child just as "dad is a man so I am a boy" is a logical connection for a male child. "I am the child version of whatever sex the parent of my gender is"

It's not rocket science people.

On a side note. Most transsexual women do not have gender reassignment surgery. They have breast removal. If that makes you a man then every post-op breast cancer patient is at least half man. We are what we are born. We can pretend to be whatever we wish we are. Heck, I wish i was Angelina Jolie.. Brad Pitt is HOT... but I cannot have surgery to make me her. I can have surgery to make me look like her some. I can change my name to hers. I can tell other people to call me her and I can be offended when people refuse to do so.. but that doesn't mean I am her.

Cross dressing women aren't men. Cross dressing mothers aren't fathers. Cross dressing dads aren't moms. Little girls in baseball jerseys aren't little boys... and people who have had their breasts removed or genitals mutilated out of self-hatred are not suddenly the opposite sex.

 

Sec sez,

one more thing, please reduce your font size. I for one am less prone, rather than more prone, to read posts with enlarged fonts[/QUOTE]

Sorry about that, but my journalistic training (BA, U Oregon 1986) says larger fonts are easier to read. They dern sure are for me, and I have 20-13 vision in both eyes (truckdriver's eyes. I can read road signs well before almost everyone else). And that means I can more easily proofread, reflect upon, and edit what I say. That's important for a writer who is regularly published, and I am one of those.

Besides that, there is the matter of artistic presentation. I get freakin BORED with 8 point arial. And my computer does not permit me to enlarge my print while working. The little button at the bottom right of the screen, the one that used to let me do it, disappeared from my computer screen when I had a virus removed back last winter.

And even when I had it, the computer (a cheap Chinese laptop, an Acer) would sometimes decide on its own to eat whatever I was typing as it unilaterally reduced the size of what was on my screen.

Besides that, I would never permit anyone to dictate to me (I appreciate that you have requested it, Sec) about what I write, or the form I write it in. I write clear, always grammatical English with no mis-spellings.

I included the purple on a whim, because the thread had something tangential to do with homosexuality, and I think you know the connection between that and the color shades represented in general by the word "purple." The overwhelming majority of my posts here will be in black type. Promise!

I am ENTERTAINED by the appearance options with which I am presented. If we all SHOULD write in only 8-point arial, then politicalforum.com's administrators should remove the entirety of option controls. All we would need is a "reply" and a "post" button. Away with the little smiley icons too. CONFORMITY!!

Most people are conformists. I am decidedly, irrevocably outside the box. I know all about what is inside the box, but I choose not to be there. I don't need no steenkin' gleichshaltung, hombre...

I will be using Arial bold #3 size font, unless moderators dictate to me that I must not do so. I will occasionally add color to the font. If you or anyone chooses not to read what I write, that is y'all's choice. You're gurus, roll with it.

BTW, Sec, are you Woodrow, or Woody? Back on AO/DBS and Hypercrites, that poster was the only one besides one of the Giraffes (that's JREFs, members of the James Randi Educational Forum), who invaded and led to the end of DBS, who ever complained about it in over 5 years of my posting going on 10,000 posts.

William P. Homans
Clarksdale, Mississippi
An Unterrorized American

 

LOL

The EXPERTS.

Gender identity disorder is a mental illness. Physically he was fine.

 

How does a 2 year old boy decide he is a girl to begin with?

What parent LET'S their 2 year old believe that and then supports it?

 

This reminds me I have to correct another mistake I made earlier.

Petras did not go out of country to have the surgery done. Several articles I read/watched stated that it could not be done in Germany under 18, even from Petras own mouth... Petras talked about having to wait because the German government wouldn't allow it. An exception was made.

I should not presume things I do not have facts to backup. Mea culpa.

So the German tax payers got to pay for all of this incredibly expensive "treatment" for years, and surgery. Brilliant.

 

Lmao! There it is again, the Makedde "I can't win this argument comeback".

I don't think raising a child to be a decent human being is in the same universe as telling that child he is not a boy but instead a girl.

But I am glad to see you finally admit a 2 year old in no way, shape, or form can make such a life altering choice as being the opposite sex.

 

One is a belief, one is a fact. Religious reassignment doesn't require hundreds of thousands of dollars and surgery.

Welcome to the forum! It is addictive.

Well put btw.

 

PERFECT diagnosis

In some extreem cases there is an actual hormonal imbalance or hermaphrodite but nothing they have stated showed either one of these cases was that true.

 

There was a hormonal imbalance. 8 pills a day for life ensured it.

Antiandrogens
LHRH analogues
leuprorelin Lucrin depotR 3.75 mg/months s.c.
triptorelin Decapepty1-CRR 3.75 mg/months i.m
Interference with testosterone or DHT production
spironolactone AidactoneR 100-200 mg/day p.o.
finasteride not registered
flutamide EulexinR 250 mg t.i.d., p.o.
Antigonadotropic
cyproterone acetate AndrocurR 100-150 mg/day p.o.
medroxyprogesterone proveraR 5-10 mg/day p.o.
Depo-ProveraR 150 mg/month i.m.
FarlutaiR 5-10 mg/day p.o.
Farlutal depotR 100 mg/month i.m.
Androgen receptor blockers
cyproterone acetate AndrocurR 100-150 mg/day p.o.
nilutamide AnandronR 300 mg/day p.o.
spironolactone AldactoneR 100-200 mg/day p.o.
Estrogens
ethinyl estradlol LynoraiR 100 µg/day p.o.
conjupted estrogens premarinR 5-10 mg/day p.o.
17ß estradlol progynovaR 2-4 mg/day p.o.
Progynon depotR 10 mg/2 weeks to 100 mg/month i.m.
Estraderm TTSR 50-100 µg/day tramdermally
estriol SynapauseR 4-6 mg/day p.o.
Androgens
testosterone esters TestoylronR 250 mg/2 weeks 1.m.
sustanonR 250 mg/2 weeks i.m.
testosterone undecanoate AndrinlR 160-240 mg/day p.o.

I just can't imagine what it takes to put your pre-pubescent child through this. Feeding a fantasy born of a mental disorder with pills that alter their brain/body chemistry.

Psychotic.

 

QMFGDT

it could not have been said any clearer

i wonder if this child would be experiencing this in a heterosexual home with a man and woman??? we will neve rknow but at 18 monhts; come on man

 

I don't know who or what you are talking about. But, my wife can vouch for the fact that she can still call me "woody"

 

the term

"mentally unstable ones" comes to mind, how about for you?

 

a brief interlude from this heated discussion. And, it's on topic

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4LnDTlQtXA&feature=fvst"]The Lumberjack Song - YouTube[/ame]

 

LOL. Fair enough, Sec. This fellow was eventually banned from both AO/DBS AND Hypercrites for repeated and wilful breaches of forum rules (and Lincoln Ramirez, the "host" of Hypercrites, has passing few rules). I can see now that you are not that person. Figgered I'd ask, though...

WPH from MS

 

We have a similar problem with our little girl.

She is convinced she is a pirate. Despite our best efforts to explain that she is NOT in fact a pirate, this has been going on for 2 years now with no signs of relenting. After much discussion, and consideration, my wife and I have taken the position that we must simply embrace that which we cannot change. Much to the chagrin of her grandparents and less progressive family members and friends.

We have purchased a speed boat, and teaching her to navigate it has been an adventure in and of itself. We just secured a dock in Somalia. She has an assortment of automatic weapons and her aim is improving daily. She is set to have her right eye surgically removed on Friday, and I must admit... I am having second thoughts. But when I look in that adorable face... how can I possibly say no? We are seeking a consult the following monday on replacing her left hand with a hook. Perhaps something custom made to help steady her weapons... I just don't know at this moment.


Please help me make this important decision.

 

have you taken her to someone who specializes in piracy and is sympathetic to pirates? maybe getting a quack to tell you that it would be normal and perfectly fine to surgically implant a hook would relieve you of the little guilt you now feel.

 

I talked to an expert about it, she said Ctrl girl IS indeed a pirate.

My 7 year old wants to be Wolverine. So I have started a fund in order to pay for the admantium surgery and injections. I figured, "Why fight it?". If this is how he feels and this is who he thinks he is, then I have to support him as his loving father and guide him through this difficult transition. Ya know, fighting this and telling him to shape or ship out isn't going to do him any good in the long run b/c then he has to hide his true identity and I don't want him to feel like an outsider. So I told him to embrace his mutant side and be free and loose with it.