If your position isn't very valid, or your too (*)(*)(*)(*) lazy to back it up...

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by jcarlilesiu, Sep 20, 2011.

  1. TheLastBoyScout

    TheLastBoyScout New Member

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    It's called Ad Hominem.

    I see it used all the time. It's a very weak debate tactic, but it's used constantly and is nothing new at all. Just point it out for what it is when it happens.
     
  2. CanadianEye

    CanadianEye Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whoa...I must be waaaaay out in left field. I thought I was at least in the right ball park, that OTC Derivatives was the cause of the big crunch, AIG starting it all off...and over reaction with the Dodd-Frank Act is what keeps it stragnating.
     
  3. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ad Hominem attacks do happen all the time, but people coming to venues with firm positions, that have never been tested through public discourse, can also leave licking their wounds. The mere starting of this thread suggests the OP might be too sensitive for a venue such as this. I don't know why. His posts are well thought out. I would much prefer trolls left butt-hurt.
     
  4. Silkheat

    Silkheat New Member

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    Actually the theory that the CRA caused the collapse has been thoroughly debunked by the federal reserve and a few economist.


    http://www.minneapolisfed.org/publications_papers/pub_display.cfm?id=4136

     
  5. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It isn't an individual. There is a whole swarm of people using this tactic lately. The tactic causes the discussion to be de-railed, its borderline flame.

    Its annoying.
     
  6. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    We think, we just dont agree with fundamental transformation of American society into some deviant sex crazed left handed communist utopia
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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  8. Silkheat

    Silkheat New Member

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    I love this stuff. You guys actually believe communists are at your door and that there are hordes of marxists out there. Give me your address I will send you some tin foil so you can protect your brain.
     
  9. Silkheat

    Silkheat New Member

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    No whaler17; just read the federal reserve link and you will see why your position is mistaken. Don't be fatuous, Jeffery.....
     
  10. TheLastBoyScout

    TheLastBoyScout New Member

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    I'm not sure it's any worse than it has been. Where you feel like it is, report it to the mods.

    In a public forum, such as this, anyone can come in. The only recourse for eliminating people who are persistent in being abusive is for website moderators to ban them......and it's their call, so the only recourse for non-mods is to argue back...and when it gets to abuse, report it.
     
  11. Trinnity

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    What BVWC ^ said.
     
  12. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    I believe you are a communist. Its not an insult, its just a fact.

    Oh and Obama is a communist, as well as most of his cabinet.
     
  13. Silkheat

    Silkheat New Member

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    Lol! Hey where are all these marxists coming from, and how has Obama implemented socialism?
     
  14. Silkheat

    Silkheat New Member

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    Ok; What have I done to show my hand comrade? What is a communist? What does a communist want?

    This is where I will tell you that you are out of touch. How can anyone conclude Obama is anything but a right leaning democrat is beyond me. He is right of Ronald Reagan for god's sake.

    So where do you see red sickles?
     
  15. TheLastBoyScout

    TheLastBoyScout New Member

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    Is this some kind of satire where you are trying to emulate the complaint in the OP by way of demonstration?
     
  16. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Nope, Just facts the way I see em.
     
  17. Mad Conservative

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    It's easy to lose track of what this thread's about.

    But you know, I ignore those who try to bait me or those who are racist, bigots and haters. There is no way that the leftists will be persuaded to think differently and the same goes for me, so why bother with them? It's the lurkers and those who aren't sure about current events, that are the real audience.

    Rather than sink into the name calling that they are so famous for, I just marginalize them and refuse to respond. It worked real with my kids when they acted like jerks.
     
  18. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Its not about russia, nor china, per se....

    This is the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    Your love for government mandates and government imposition is clear proof of your communist ideals.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XObcP69dhCg"]Ronald Reagan .. "Government is the problem" - YouTube[/ame]
     
  19. Ore_Ele

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    It isn't accurate to do a total history and apply that average to everything.

    In the 100 years of 1800 - 1899, we spend 48 years in recession. In the 50 years of 1950 - 1999, we spent 7 years in recession (and the longest one was only 16 months, as opposed to 8 years in the 19th century).

    While recessions will still happen every now and again, they are not nearly as common as they use to be, and I believe that it is clearly shown that they can be controled and limited to a degree.
     
  20. Ore_Ele

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    You mean socialist. Communism is a branch of anacrhy and anti-government. It is sad to see people vomiting up what they heard from somewhere without understanding it.
     
  21. Silkheat

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    Right but Reagan increased the size and scope of government and tripled the debt. So basically in that speech he is full of sh!t.

    Again wanting a functional government is far different than wanting communism.

    So in this context:

    It would seem we already have some communism. However just sharing some common traits doesn't make countries communist. Meaning do you really believe " Free education for all children in public schools. " is wrong because communism also believes in it?
     
  22. CanadianEye

    CanadianEye Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is a very definite strategy to immediately funnel all observations made about Barack Hussein Obama, the radical Marxist/Maoist/Communist ties of himself and many of his administration...as conspiracy theory...and it has grown weak.

    He is what he is, and his admin and czars are what they are. There is no spinning out of Saul Alinsky tactics/Bill Ayers/Bernadine Dorn/Van Jones/Marxist parents and Marxist mentors, those of whom are alive are extremely active in the militant radicalism in America and abroad.

    Watching Hillary Clinton, state that George Soros, the man who numerous nations have had to protect themselves against, legally, is one of the greatest men is repugnant, and he is thick as thieves with Obama and his administration.

    It isn't spin, and it isn't conspiracy theory. It is what it is, and America would do well to get Obama as far away from the WH as possible, and as soon as possible.
     
  23. Silkheat

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    Can you demonstrate Obama's "radical Marxist/Maoist/Communist" in his actions?
     
  24. Kabuki Joe

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    ...report?...LOL...you sound like a little girl tattling...if someone is that bad put them on ignore...


    Kabuki Joe
     
  25. Hanzou

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    If Obama is a communist, then Nixon and Reagan were Stalinists.
     

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