Not having free healthcare is unconstitutional!

"nor shall any person ... be deprived of life"
5th amendment, baby.

What happens when people don't have healthcare and they fall off a horse or something?

THEY DIE.

In other words, THERE LIFE IS BEING DEPRIVED.

lol the necons don't get it.

 

Are you a teenager?

There is NO such thing as free healthcare.

 

so I guess nothing is free right?

why even have the word in the dictionary?

neocons... lol

 

Have you discovered immortality?

 

what the hell does immortality mean?

lol at the neocons. You probably didn't even use the word right.

 

LMGTFY

This has got to be one of the most ridiculous ad homs I've ever heard. You're going to accuse me of ignorance on a subject you yourself have admitted to knowing nothing about?

 

When people don't have healthcare and they fall off a horse, they get to go to the emergency room for free, and it ends up adding to the rest of of our bills.

We have already decided as a nation that hospitals/ambulance cannot deny emergency procedures based on insurance.

Try again.

 

Wow! This was the most ridiculous interpretation of the 5th Amendment that I have ever seen. If you knew anything about the Constitution, you would know that the 5th amendment protects against abuse of government authority in a legal procedure. In order words, it has nothing to do with healthcare. In its entirety it reads:

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

To say that you take the 5th amendment out of context would be a huge understatement. You purposely neglect the original intent of the 5th Amendment AND also purposely cut and paste text of the 5th Amendment to distort its meaning.

Do you have any shame sinking to this level of desperation?

 

What's a necon? Is that like a nico wafer or something?

No one under the constitution is obligated to contribute to funding healthcare for those that abuse their bodies. Smokers, drug abusers, alcoholics, etc.

I believe in a national healthcare plan but if you can't weed the abusers out then there is no point. And liberals don't have the spine to weed out the abusers and that's where a socialist program like healthcare will always fail.

 

Depriving someone indicates action. Can you explain who is committing the action of depriving another of needed healthcare and provide a description of that exact action?

To provide an analogy, it's like saying that the gas station is depriving you of fuel by not providing the fuel to you on demand and at no charge, or the bank is depriving you of money by not providing cash to you on demand even if you have no money in your account or even an account with the bank at all.

Plenty of people, however, are deprived of access to quality health *insurance* because entitlement-seeking losers who think like you insist on regulating the healthcare market into the ground.

 

lol

definitions you made up

 

That fountain in Florida thing again?

Obamacare enrollment tumbles

http://news.investors.com/ibd-edito...nt-dropped-below-10-million-in-new-report.htm

 

True it means without due process you cannot execute someone and it must also be a suitable punishment for the crime reinforced by the "cruel and unusual" punishment in the Bill of Rights. You can't execute someone for a crime the Courts deem undeserving which did evolve they could once do so for cattle rustling but now theft isn't a capital crime. Murdering a raping a child as an example would be and rightly so. But your entitled to a fair and proper trial. I will note military cases don't apply execution for desertion during combat is still possibly a capital crime although not in most cases enforced and psychological defenses can be used.

 

I once was bucked off a horse and didn't have health insurance and I didn't die.

I just got back on the horse.

 

If it were Constitutional, it would have been in the Constitution. They got sick the too so you would think they would have thought of that. They did and never intended federal government to be your nanny.

 

All forms of healthcare has never been free and never will be free. I live in the UK where we have the universal single payer healthcare system which you are advocating. It is advertised as free at the point of use but the reality is it is paid for through raised taxation. Every citizen that is earning enough money to be considered under the tax bracket (which is the vast majority of people) have to pay for the service of the NHS and it's funding through taxes.

Nothing in life is ever free my friend.

 

... permitting someone to fall off a horse is unconstitutional?




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If you read what you quoted, we're ALL unconstitutional when we die, even naturally. How do you propose to resolve that?

 

The constitution does mandate free healthcare for all. At best it provides that all citizens should have the ability to purchase heath insurance without bias. And that those jobless or low pay workers should have free or subsidized heath care which they always had before Obama care. Obama care has put many middle-class Americans into a financial bind. Forcing them to purchase unusable insurance,we see it in our medical practice each day. They ha e insurance but can't afford to see a physician or have needed surgery because the can't afford there deductible and or copay, out of pocket.

It is no wonder medical costs, according to the dems,
has decreased, many can't afford to use the insurance they are forced to pay for.

 

No it is a depriving action. A lot of money and lobbying goes into stopping universal healthcare. Not to mention the average conservative opinion on it is very deprivation based.

 

Lobbing by who? It is the middle class that will pay for universal heath care and who will the doctors be employed by? The government will dictate who can receive life saving heath care and surgery and they will base it on your age, number of years treatment and/or surgery will prolong your life. That has already been established by the Presidents medical advisors oh you that know so little and refuse to listen to those that know much!

 

Laughable. If someone falls off a horse and is injured in the US they receive health care. It's just that somebody else pays for it. That's not a right.

 

"They die"? Not because they don't have insurance because 1., no emergency can turn them away by law, and 2. Even if they have a new exchange policy if they can,t afford to pay their upfront deductible it is the same as not having insurance many patients seeking care find they can't use their insurance because they can't afford the deductible they find the insurance only helpful to pay routine office visits where they have a low copay and when the deductible doesn't apply. Too bad our government forces us to purchase insurance we cannot use for inpatient hospital care where we can oNly be admitted if our deductible is met or we have a life threatening emergency. For most people, they will pay out of pocket for a vast majority of there medical expenses u less they have extremely high medical costs that exceed their deductible. If you are virtually healthy and have a high deductible and annual out of pocket your insurance will likely not cover much of your annual costs.

 

The constitution doesn't say all citizens should have free health care. What it provides for is that nobody can be denied treatment based on age, sex or color. And the government already passed laws that require hospitals,emergency rooms to treat emergency patients or if not life threatibng to transfer them to city,state, or county hospitals recivibng government subsidy to trat indigent or low income patients. Obama care benefited the large insurance companies not the insureds and definitely not the tax payers.