Do Homosexuals Think They Can Get a Free Pass from God?

No, Ive alredy showed you. There are no such things as used to be Christians. Faith is a gift from God. Where does it say He takes it back? It doesn't.

Its not hard to understand. And, why do you always indicate I am angry. I have nothing to be angry about. Are you just building a straw man. Good luck.

So, what makes you think you were a Christian. What makes you think you can cease to be a Christian?

Quantrill

 

What have you been smoking? The whole book of Ehphesians is to Christians.

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Luke 8:12 ... I already showed you. Its not about believers. 'Lest they believe'.

Mark 16... is not talking to those who had faith and supposedly lost it. Its talking about peope who don't believe.

John 3....Same thing for John.

You haven't given any yet, much less 'more'. All you are showing is people who never come to Christ. Is this the best you have? Why do you believe you used to be a Christian?

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I cannot help but miss them, because they aren't there to be read.

No, there will be those who WERE homosexuals and got over it, thanks to the spirit of Christ.

Since I never gave a definition, your inference is pure fantasy.

You are hardly qualified to do so, since you obviously don't know what the Hell you're talking about.

 

My sins are hyperbolic.

 

X-christians, read my question again.
of course i know its about christians - But where does the verse you quoted refer to those whom quit christianity remaining as christian, as you claimed?

and what about my other question re the bible?

 

I didn't see a question You just said, no where in that verse does it talk about Christians.

And I responded accordingly. And I don't see another question there either.

So, whats the deal?

Quantrill

 

You wrote, and i quoted:

i replied with this. i didnt add a question mark, my bad. regard it as a question though

and i have now made the question clearer anyway, below.

No, i said X-(as in former) christians.

Now we have cleared that up, can you answer the question:
where in that Eph verse you quoted is it saying folk cannot stop being christians (as you claimed)?

 

and what about this question from earlier as well?

 

Indeed. The books of Hebrews and Revelation both repeatedly warn to hold our faith steadfast to the end. "Once saved always saved" is incompatible with God's character because God never violates free will and our will isn't free if we're locked in. OSAS only infects a certain portion of Protestants and comes mainly from bodies of theology such as Calvinism, which is hard set against the doctrine of free will.

 

You are correct… Nowhere in The Bible does it say anything like that… In fact, what Jesus DOES say is “Please forsake me, and my Father because it doesn’t matter if you believe in either of us – we will let you into our humble Heaven…” Or something like that… Jesus never states that you better pray to the Trilogy or be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed… you are CORRECT!!

Uh… Nope… Sorry… You will and forever struggle with sin and will not be “cleansed” of all your Sins when you get to Heaven. Nowhere in the Bible does it state that… All it states is you will be judged, and your sins are equivalent to a serial killers and a homosexuals. It’s all the same in His Holy eyes and since he is the Alpha and Omega do not even THINK that you know how you will be judged or someone else. To think this is a serious sin – you know that right? Do you think you are equivalent to your God? Do you think you know if there will be homosexuals in Heaven because you know how HE judges people?

It’s call reading… I do that at times and use the words and make sentences… Sometimes what I read makes sense! Are you suggesting that your assessment should be taken as Fantasy? Or it comes across as fantasy?

I know that if you believe in God – you shouldn’t under any circumstances suggest you know anything about his Godliness… unless he is your equal of course…

 

What are you saved from if not sin? And if you're saved from sin, how can you sin, since according to Christ, all who do so are its servants?

 

I I am equal to god and he is equal to me as we are all our own gods

 

Old news.

Yep.

That makes one of us.

Look, if you insist on shilling for satan that's your lookout...but if you expect to rope me in you're gonna have to step up your game by at least 1000%.

 

God tell you this ? LOL...

 

I don't have to step anything up... The Bible does that for me.

You can sit there and say God this and God that all day, but you are not Jewish and believe in Jesus. Two totally different worlds there Rosco!

First I will ask you this - did Jesus die for our sins? Because, per what I am reading from you is that he didn't. We all have to be "free" of sin to get into Heaven. If we have to be "free" of sin to get into Heaven - why the hell did he die for them to begin with?

 

Eph.2:9 says that faith is a gift of God. Even believing is not of us. God gives it to us to believe. It is God who opens our eyes to Christ.

You find it also when Christ told Peter, after Peter made his confession that Jesus Christ is the Son of the Living God, " Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven." Matt. 1613-20

God is the one who gives the faith to believe. Its not yours to lose. You can grow in faith. A Christians faith may be weak, almost gone at times. But its there becaue God is the one that gave it.

And those God gives faith to, are saved forever. They do not become 'former christians'.

Quantrill

 

God inspired men to write His Word which is the Bible. One Bible. Versions are the efforts at translating.

Inspiration only applies to the original writing. Not to the copying or translating. Though we know and trust God's help in this also.

Quantrill

 

I guess John wasn't talking to Christians then when he said:

1Jn 1
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

 

If He does that to you, how can you sin?

Yes, "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God", but that doesn't mean everyone DOES sin; and according to the same author, "He that sayeth, 'I know Him', and keepeth not His commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him" (1Jn 2:4), and "He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning" (1Jn 3:, and "Whosoever is born of God cannot sin; for his seed remaineth in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God" (1Jn 3:9).

 

Try this one.

5.You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.” Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either. Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you will also be cut off. And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.” (Romans 11:19-23)

The good branches are grafted in, the bad broken off.
Why have you provided ZERO support from scripture for your position? If it's the whole Bible, it should be easy to provide examples for us.

 

Romans 11:19-23 is not speaking to individual salvation. It is addressing the salvation which was to the Jews, and is now to the Gentiles. Warning is given to the Gentiles that God is able to turn again to the Jews, if the Gentiles turn from God as the Jews did.

No I have provide several verses. And you have not addressed them. Why? Because you cant'.

There are no former Christians. You have nothing but your opinion. Which means very little.

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Heb 10:38-NOW THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH: BUT IF ANY MAN DRAW BACK, MY SOUL SHALL HAVE NO PLEASURE IN HIM.

1 Tim 5:12-HAVING (*)(*)(*)(*)ATION, BECAUSE THEY HAVE CAST OFF THEIR FIRST FAITH.

Col 1:22,23-HE HAS RECONCILED YOU…TO PRESENT YOU HOLY IN HIS SIGHT, WITHOUT BLEMISH AND FREE FROM ACCUSATION-NIV.
IF YE CONTINUE IN THE FAITH GROUNDED AND SETTLED, AND BE NOT MOVED AWAY FROM THE HOPE OF THE GOSPEL, WHICH YE HAVE HEARD.

Shall I go on?
None of the verses you have posted say that one's faith can not be lost. None of them.

 

So if Gentiles start with faith, but lose that faith, God can turn away.
This is your defense of your position that God will never leave us?