Libya moving to Sharia Law

http://news.yahoo.com/libyas-transitional-leader-declares-liberation-155513082.html

So this must have been voted on by the people of the new domocracy.

That are even planning to roll back laws that conflict with Sharia Law and I guess there is an assumption that all people in Libya want Sharia Law.

I guess women can bask in the freedom seen in Saudi Arabia.

All these people trying to claim Libya is moving to a better version of life, I'm sure this will be a great place to visit the prestine beach for people that aren't muslim.

 

PREAMBLE

In the name of God the beneficent, the merciful. We, the representatives of the people of Libya from Cyrenaica, Tripolitania and Fezzan, meeting by the will of God in the cities of Tripoli and Benghazi in a National Constituent Assembly. Having agreed and determined to form a union(1) between us under the Crown of King Mohammad Idris El-Senussi, to whom the nation has offered the Crown and who was declared constitutional King of Libya by this the National Constituent Assembly.

And having decided and determined to establish a democratic independent sovereign State which will guarantee the national unity, safeguard domestic tranquility, provide the means for common defence, secure the establishment of justice, guarantee the principles of liberty, equality and fraternity and promote economic and social progress and the general welfare. And trusting in God, Master of the Universe, do hereby prepare and resolve this Constitution for the Kingdom of Libya(2).


Rights of the People

ARTICLE 11

Libyans shall be equal before the law. They shall enjoy equal civil and political rights, shall have the same opportunities, and be subject to the same public duties and obligations, without distinction of religion, belief, race, language, wealth, kinship or political or social opinions.

ARTICLE 12

Personal liberty shall be guaranteed and everyone shall be entitled to equal protection of the law.

ARTICLE 13

No forced labour shall be imposed upon anyone save in accordance with law in cases of emergency, catastrophe or circumstances, which may endanger the safety of the whole or part of the population.

ARTICLE 14

Ever yone shall have the right to resource to the Cour ts, in accordance with the provisions of the law.

ARTICLE 15

Everyone charged with an offence shall be presumed to be innocent until proved guilty according to law in a trial at which he has the guarantees necessary for his defence. The trial shall be public save in exceptional cases prescribed by law.

 

The UK & Canada too

 

It should not come as a surprise that Libyans have adopted the pre-Qaddafi national symbols, including the flag and 1951 Libyan Constitution that Qaddafi suspended in 1969; that era was the last sane period many remember. The majority of Libyans were born during his dictatorship but many are yearning for those days of stability and constitutional order and a semblance of civil society.


NO reason to have a knee Jerk reaction to the word Sharia..

The Libyan Constitution (second post) was also based in Sharia law.

 

Applied retrospectively ?

 

Meaning what?

Jibril wanted Khadafi alive to stand trial.. and that should have happened when he was pulled from his hiding place in the drainpipe. But it didn't .. a young rebel shot him instead.

 

He has already interfered with the freedom to contract by cancelling interest payments on privately held loans. More to come.

 

Why don't you actually READ the Libyan Constitution instead of speculating?

Constitution of Libya

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PREAMBLE

In the name of God the beneficent, the merciful. We, the representatives of the people of Libya from Cyrenaica, Tripolitania and Fezzan, meeting by the will of God in the cities of Tripoli and Benghazi in a National Constituent Assembly. Having agreed and determined to form a union(1) between us under the Crown of King Mohammad Idris El-Senussi, to whom the nation has offered the Crown and who was declared constitutional King of Libya by this the National Constituent Assembly.

And having decided and determined to establish a democratic independent sovereign State which will guarantee the national unity, safeguard domestic tranquility, provide the means for common defence, secure the establishment of justice, guarantee the principles of liberty, equality and fraternity and promote economic and social progress and the general welfare. And trusting in God, Master of the Universe, do hereby prepare and resolve this Constitution for the Kingdom of Libya(2).


Rights of the People

ARTICLE 11

Libyans shall be equal before the law. They shall enjoy equal civil and political rights, shall have the same opportunities, and be subject to the same public duties and obligations, without distinction of religion, belief, race, language, wealth, kinship or political or social opinions.

ARTICLE 12

Personal liberty shall be guaranteed and everyone shall be entitled to equal protection of the law.

ARTICLE 13

No forced labour shall be imposed upon anyone save in accordance with law in cases of emergency, catastrophe or circumstances, which may endanger the safety of the whole or part of the population.

ARTICLE 14

Ever yone shall have the right to resource to the Courts, in accordance with the provisions of the law.

ARTICLE 15

Everyone charged with an offence shall be presumed to be innocent until proved guilty according to law in a trial at which he has the guarantees necessary for his defence. The trial shall be public save in exceptional cases prescribed by law.

 

I am not seeing any specific laws here.

Where is the specifically sharian part?

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/213138-constitution-libya-1951-a.html

Its a Constitution based on the highest principles of Sharia law..

Shouldn't be scary because it guaarantees equal rights. I posted a link for you.

 

be certain the liars will be dealt with.

I mean, could ya imagine if a wingnut was to claim 'i be one of daaaa chosen ones'? Or how about the idiots that claim, they are better than others based on their birth? i bet bigots WILL NOT do very well!

ie.... libya aint going to be a place for the liebi ya type to live a ya, no matter if sharia is da law a of da land a

 

The new national anthem of Libya is causing quite the commotion in Belgium.

It resemblances the opening tune of one our most famous TV-series called "F.C. De Kampioenen". It's about a folksy football team with all kinds of colourful characters...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEDZt-tDQ5E"]Libya vs. FC De Kampioenen[/ame]

 

Margot, you post this document as if it is a fact that this will be the constitution rather than more of a idea you hope for. I have seen this document linked in everyone of your post but it has yet to be adopted in Libya so it is still a wait and see if you are right.

 

It was the Constitution adapted by the people in 1951.. The Libyans are talking about bringing it back again.. Khadafi dismissed it in 1969.. so they knew what it was like living with a Constitution.

Did you read it?

 

Lets see what Koran has to say about it:

And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.

So much for freedom.

Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

So much for equality.

and what does the Koran has to say about that:

And call two witness from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not at hand, then a man and two women, of such as ye approve as witnesses, so that if one erreth (though forgetfulness) the other will remember. And the witnesses must not refuse when they are summoned. Be no averse to writing down (the contract) whether it be small or great, with (record of) the term thereof.

A man is worth 2 woman in the eye of the law.

And if you are ill or on a journey or one of you comes from the place of relieving himself or you have contacted women and find no water, then seek clean earth and wipe over your faces and your hands [with it].

A woman must be kind of plauge.

 

Sharia law is subject to interpretation because it is not codified.

This Constitution adheres to the highest principles of Sharia law.

Do you think that we still adhere to the letter of the law in Leviticus and Deuteronomy?

 

How many times has history shown "freedom fighters" become tomorrows dictators? The mid-East was full of them. Now that THEY are gone, are we seeing the next round?

Will there be religious freedom in these countries? Will women have equal rights? Will these countries join the world and offer freedom and promise for a good life, or will they slip into big government control over every aspect of their lives as we now have here?

 

Read the Constitution they plan to reinstate.

Libya is well positioned to be successful ...

 

Shariah law prohibits lenders from charging interest, which makes it impossible to run a modern banking system.

 

They run a very successful banking system.. Don't assume otherwise.

 

No, no, no.

It's entirely possible to have a modern-day banking system with participatory banking.

Imagine that! Your bank calling you annually to tell you:

"Good day, Mr. Blackrook. We see you have accumulated around $50.000 on your account this year. With that money we made investments and made a profit of $500 this year. Which is the non-profit of your choosing to donate our profits too?"

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjzSm-oIt9E"]Civic Banking[/ame]

 

Some common laws of “Islamic Sharia” which are regularly practiced in the Islamically ruled (Sharia-based) nations with some minor variations:

• 1- Jihad defined as “to war against all non-Muslims to establish the religion” is the duty of every Muslim and Muslim head of state (Caliph). Muslim Caliphs who refuse jihad are in violation of Sharia and unfit to rule.
• 2- A Caliph can hold office through seizure of power meaning through force.
• 3- The head of an Islamic State (Caliph) cannot be charged, let alone be punished for serious crimes such as murder, adultery, robbery, theft, drinking and in some cases of rape (Hudood cases) - Codified Islamic Law Vol 3 # 914C of and page 188 of Hedaya the Hanafi manual.
• 4- A percentage of Zakat (alms) must go towards jihad.
• 5- It is obligatory to obey the commands of the Caliph, even if he is unjust.
• 6- A caliph must be a Muslim, a non-slave and a male.
• 7- The Muslim public must remove the Caliph in one case, if he rejects Islam.
• 8- A Muslim who leaves Islam (apostate) must be killed immediately.
• 9- A Muslim will be forgiven for murder of : a) an apostasy b) an adulterer c) a highway robber. Making vigilante street justice and honor killing acceptable.
• 10- A Muslim will not get the death penalty if he kills a non-Muslim.
• 11- Sharia never abolished slavery and sexual slavery and highly regulates it. A master will not be punished for killing his slave. Slavery still exists amongst Arab Muslims.

• 12- Sharia dictates death by stoning, beheading, for sins like killing, adultery, prostitutions; and other Quranic corporal punishments like: amputation of limbs (chopping hands and feet), floggings, beatings and other forms of cruel and unusual punishments even for the sins like: stealing, sexual promiscuity, robbery, burglary etc.
• 13- Non-Muslims are not equal to Muslims and must comply to Sharia (pay Zizzya: poll tax) if they are to remain safe. They are forbidden to marry Muslim women, publicly display wine or pork, recite their own religious scriptures, or openly celebrate their religious holidays or funerals. They are forbidden from building new churches or building them higher than mosques. They may not enter a mosque without permission. A non-Muslim is no longer protected if he commits adultery with a Muslim woman or if he leads a Muslim away from Islam.
• 14- It is a crime for a non-Muslim to sell weapons to someone who will use them against Muslims. Non-Muslims cannot curse a Muslim, say anything derogatory about Allah, the Prophet, or Islam, or expose the weak points of Muslims. However, Muslims can curse, criticize or say anything derogatory they like to the religions of others.
• 15- A non-Muslim cannot inherit from a Muslim.
• 16- Banks must be Sharia compliant and interest is not allowed.
• 17- No testimony in court is acceptable from people of low-level jobs, such as street sweepers or a bathhouse attendant. Women in such low level jobs such as professional funeral mourners cannot keep custody of their children in case of divorce.
• 18- A non-Muslim cannot rule even over a non-Muslims minority.
• 19- Homosexuality is punishable by death. (18 January 2011, 5:26pm) - Two young men who filmed themselves having sex with a 17-year-old have been sentenced to death by stoing in Iran (click on image for full story)
  
  
• 20- There is no age limit for marriage of girls under Sharia. The marriage contract can take place anytime after birth and consummated at age 8 or 9.
• 21- Rebelliousness on the part of the wife nullifies the husband’s obligation to support her, gives him permission to beat her and keep her from leaving the home.
• 22- Divorce is only in the hands of the husband and is as easy as saying: “I divorce you” and becomes effective even if the husband did not intend it.
• 23- There is no common property between husband and wife and the husband’s property does not automatically go to the wife after his death.
• 24- A woman inherits half what a man inherits. Sister gets half of what brother gets.
• 25- A man has the right to have up to 4 wives and wife has no right to divorce him even if he is polygamous.
• 26- The dowry is given in exchange for the woman’s sexual organs.
• 27- A man is allowed to have sex with slave women and also with women captured in battle (concubines), and if the enslaved woman is married her marriage is annulled.
• 28- The testimony of a woman in court is half the value of a man; that is, two women equal to one man.
• 29- A woman looses custody if she remarries.
• 30- A rapist may only be required to pay the bride-money (dowry) without marrying the rape victim.
• 31- A Muslim woman must cover every inch of her body which is considered “Awrah,” a sexual organ. Some schools of Sharia allow the face and some don’t.
• 32- A Muslim man is forgiven if he kills his wife caught in the act of adultery. However, the opposite is not true for women since he “could be married to the woman he was caught with.”
• 33-It is obligatory for a Muslim to lie if the purpose is obligatory and is known as Taqiyya (Islamic Deception). That means that for the sake of abiding with Islam’s commandments, such as jihad, a Muslim is obliged to lie and should not have any feelings of guilt or shame associated with this kind of lying.

The above are clear-cut laws in Islam decided by great Imams after years of examination and interpretation of the Quran, Hadith and Mohammed’s life.

• 34. The perpetrators of genocide, mass rape and plunder will not be punished if they repent - Codified Islamic Law Vol 1 # 13.
• 35. To prove rape, a woman must have 4 male witnesses. Women’s testimony is not accepted - Pakistan’s Hudood ordnance 7 of 1979 amended by 8B of 1980. Thousands of raped women and girls in many countries have been charged with Zena (physical relations outside marriage) and punished by Sharia courts for want of witnesses.
• 36. All modern music including sexually explicit music of any kind is strictly prohibited and punishable by Islamic Sharia code of justice. Only Islamic songs are allowed.

http://islammonitor.org/index.php?id=4050&option=com_content

 

Maybe we all should get the Old Testament off the bookcase!

What was the original name of the Old Testament again? Torah or something?!

 

why? Sharia comes from the haddith like the tailmudd of judaism.

is that what israel does with tailmudd and the religious state of israel

so like israel's zionism, they will pursue the 'last days' or perfectly the zionist; they want the mount for messiah, which is like murder for the last days

So much for equality.

which is about opposite of the older religion that has men wearing curlers and women with mustache, sideburns of the matriarchial beliefs of the inbred

why not try something in the middle?

what's a plauge?

is that queer for religious wingnuts that cant spell?


or are you suggesting that the people who are procreating faster than bigots are doing it better than the inbred can?

 

i think i like quite of bit of that stuff


what can we do to liars?

can i drag them behind my truck?