Romney is a Mormon... Is He "Christian"?

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Is Romney A Christian

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    36.6%
  1. TheBasicsAbout

    TheBasicsAbout New Member

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    ok ... suppose I have to agree with that ... that's a small part of why I didn't vote for someone who's own minister said GOD D(*)(*)(*) AMERICA!

    Too bad more people don't stand up for that type of significants.

     
    KKK isn't a religion ...

    that's like saying you wouldn't buy a Honda Civic because you don't like motorcycles ... one has nothing to do with the other.

    That's how Gore lost the election in Florida ... because none of the above was not an option ... then again - if you were an actual voter you would know that.
     
    no - I do not see any progress there - digression ... possibly!
     
    Ahh! Known supremacists like the Baptist attitude toward the Catholics?

    To each his own ...
     
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    If they did a Mormon would never hold a public office except in their homeland of Utah.
     
     
     
     
    Don't tell them that, they are very religious.
     
     
     
     
    That's because the rich/elites two party system runs the process. In an actual democratic/republic, if the people were actually you know, in charge, if the majority gave the two idiots running a vote of lack of confidence, they wouldn't just go ahead and assume office. That's why it is called voters rights, not candidates rights, by the way.
     

     
     
    Neither do I. Besides progressives are just republicans in democrats clothing, they are not real liberals, same as republicans are not real conservatives, even if they play one on TV.
     
     
     
     
    I'm sorry, are you trying to say one isn't a supremacist? Mormon's still refer to blacks as mud people, even though they try not to say it in front of the tax auditor. Wouldn't want to lose that tax exemption doncha know. A supremacist is a supremacist, social/racial/religious, whatever. Same difference.
     
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    If it's simply the woreship of Christ and the belief that Jesus is the messiah, then Yes, he is a Christian...

    Mormons follow all Christian Dogma. They merely added their own to the mix, simular to how Catholics added things that are not in the bible.
     
  4. Paladin109

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    And finally, I wouldn't vote for him not because of his religion but because he has never had to labor a day in his life. Treason? I don't think any court anywhere would buy that one.
     
  5. DarkDaimon

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    Does that mean that telling someone to shut up is treason since it is going against the Freedom of Speech?

    Actually it is far worse of a crime to tell people how they should choose their candidates. People actually choose candidates for even more trivial reasons than religion (or race or sex for that matter). I knew someone who once voted against a candidate because she didn't like his hair cut. However, it is not up to us to decide how others vote. That goes right to the heart of democracy.

    Besides, Romney is hardly the first candidate to be discriminated against due to his religious beliefs. How many Muslim or Atheist presidents have we had?
     
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    BTW, the proper name of the Mormon church is the Church of Jesus Christ Of Later Day Saints.
     
  7. TheBasicsAbout

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    what are you talking about?

    Apparently; you know nothing but propaganda about the LDS and you don't know much if anything about the Bible either.

    too bad the pretend (aka Corporate) Christian's FAIL to know this!
     
  8. TheBasicsAbout

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    what? did you hear what you asked here?? anyone can tell anyone to shut up ... FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

    he who votes a fool's choice in more of the fool than the one they allowed to dictate how their life is being controlled

    HUH? How MANY Muslim or Atheists have tried to get the job?

    Look at the name Barrack Obama .... just because he is a self proclaimed convert does not mean he does not sport an Islamic name.

    ... and before him - how many blacks ran for President?

    trying to play a hate card with nothing more than an erroneous analogy is really weak - no?
     
  9. Paladin109

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    Amen! the vast majority are want to be seen christians. Just like most in Church's want the appearance of being holy but would in most cases be as my neighbor and steal electricity for the 16 yrs I have known him. Don't get me wrong, I know there are well meaning people in all religions and I don't hold ones beliefs against them but I know what I know for haven lived around LDS for yrs. sanctimonious and sacrilegious come to mind.
     
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    ... and your point is? your previous post NEVER said "because he has never had to labor a day in his life."

    Personally; I won't vote for him because his agenda is too LIBERAL!
    If I have to choose between him or what we have - I will vote for the crud we already know is a mess.

    ... but that's how I roll! ... keep liberalism on the left

    Now ... I want to make a point about the Mormon's book which you have misinterpreted
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    but the LDS have a book of Mormon which is contrary to the verse about adding to or taking away from this book.​
    and that is an incorrect stretch of the truth. It's a separate book ... it is NOT an addition to the Bible's passages.

    You want to talk about misrepresenting the Bible ... fight it in it's own context.

    Look how many people refuse to accept things written in the Bible which have DESTROYED our nation because religion is a business which FAILS to teach the entire word correctly.
     
  11. Paladin109

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    And if you are so versed in the bible you would know that

    Revelations 22.18 says I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book; if anyone adds anything to them, god will add to him the plagues described in this book.

    Revelations 22.19 says and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, god shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

    I may be rusty but in time I will find and out thump you. The book of Mormon is clearly an addition to the bible and they use it with great zeal.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    The Catholics did not add anything to the bible. The created the first and original bible. The protestants actually removed many things from the bible because they did not agree with them. Go get an original KJV bible, it contains the exacts same books that are in the Catholic bible. All the things that are currently in the Catholic bible were originally in the KJV of the bible.
     
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    I will not vote for him, not because of his religion, but because of his stupidity to believe in the nonsense that is in the BOM. Now, if he is just a Mormon for political and social reasons, then I could easily vote for him, but he believes that idiocy. And idiocy it is, just go read the introduction in the BOM if you do not believe me.
    BOM = Book of Mormon.
     
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    Would you vote for someone who believes in transubstantiation? How about young earth creationism?
     
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    As you know I am in agreement. Most are unaware that the Mormons believe Joesph Smith was a martyr for them and did more for them then Christ. They also believe the BOM is the lost commandments (tablets) of the bible found by a drunk and womanizing Smith in America of all places. Lets not forget plural marriage which is still practiced by spin offs of the church. Southern Utah is riddled with it but kept very quite. The main stream only denounced it because of all the friction from the rest of the world. Let us not forget the wearing of garments which is IDOLATRY, (They have their underware blessed). And then theres the you can't go into their "temple" unless you are of the brethren. Now theres a good "christian" attitude. Only save the saved. My intent is not to beat them up but to illustrate what I believe is their misdirection. Did you know they own a large chunk of south central Fla.? Farms, ranchs, etc. Thats only the tip of the iceberg of the churchs holdings.
     
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    If any politician were to stand on stage and say that he believed that wine and bread became flesh and blood when eaten I would not vote for him/her. I would NEVER vote for any politician that openly denies evolution or believes in a YOUNG EARTH.

    If they refuse to comment on these things, and others, then I have to make my decisions based on other things.
     
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    So, you wouldn't vote for a Catholic or an evangelical unless they were to repudiate part of their beliefs?
     
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    because they do not believe that at all.

    This is also untrue.

    That is also false. The FLDS and their plural marriage is well known by Mormons and non Mormons alike. The church in Salt Lake does not recognize the FLDS as Mormons.

    Yet another misconception, and a new one on me. I thought I'd heard it all. The underwear is not blessed, and the temple garments are no more idols than are crucifixes or yarmulkes are idols.

    At last, a true statement. Only faithful Mormons are allowed in the temple. Why, though, would an anyone who doesn't believe in their religion want to go there?

    That may be your intent, but you have a lot of misinformation.

    The Mormon church does have quite a lot of wealth. They also use a lot of it to help the poor, victims of natural disasters, etc.
     
  19. TheBasicsAbout

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    Hey! I am with you on that! I have not seen any reason to start trusting him.

    My problem is in the disrespect toward our Constitution when it come's to ALL American's.

    That's why I stopped watching Fox ...when that one real tall lawyer commentator was pitching a fit against a Muslim center a couple blocks from Ground Zero ...

    No matter what their ulterior motive is/was - we as American's are obliged to honor the Constitution ... if they mess up ... may they be prepared to find out quickly that the ONLY legal aged virgins in heaven are OLD Catholic nun's! :omg:
     
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    That is not what I said, but, yes, if the candidate was viable in other ways and reputed the idiocy of his/her religion, then I would consider them.
    Kennedy would have gotten my vote since he flat out stated that he would put the USA above his religion, the pope and god. OH, and Kennedy did win.
    In the case of Mormonism, if anyone claims to accept the BOM as fact, I must believe they have no sense of judgement, no ability to detect human lies and lousy decision making ability.
     
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    I am in favor of tossing out the old, outdated Constitution and holding a new constitutional convention to create a new, and more valid document for modern times.
     
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    REALLY!
    as with ALL those churches who do NOT agree with the Bible!

    ... wtf ... we ALL KNOW women never doll up for church! ... no church tolerates that! :twisted:
     
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    ... of course ... and people like you want everything to be suitable for the success of a deteriorating society!
     
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    That says what exactly??
     
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    The constitution is a mess, it has ammedments that change previous amendments, amendments that are meaningless because no one can agree as to what they mean. It contains some horrible statements on slavery and women. Even Jefferson said it should be rewritten every 20 years, by violence is necessary. We have waited way to long to create a new and more valid document for today. To venerate an old and completely outdated document just because it is old is STUPID and needs to stop.
     

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