Another "innocent" man executed complaint. Your post said nothing about Troy Davis' criminal background or much on the details of the case. He pleaded guilty previously to carrying a concealed handgun that he did not have a permit for, the gun having the serial number altered---this means he was walking around with a illegal handgun, most probably stolen. He was at the very least placed at the scene of the crime, yet did not call the police when one security guard was being beaten (by someone else than him he says), or when another policeman was shot and killed by, of course, someone else. Davis for some odd reason then fled the scene and was later captured at his sister's house. His actions do not cause my heart to bleed for him. The State of Georgia can at least be given credit for following God's order: Moreover you shall take no ransom for the life of a murderer who is guilty of death, but he shall surely be put to death...So you shall not pollute the land where you are; for blood defiles the land, and no atonement can be made for the land, for the blood that has be shed on it, except by the blood of him who shed it. Num 35 31-33. The works of groups like Project Innocence and the NAACP, that give aid and comfort to criminals over sympathy for their victims, are in my opinion as worthwhile as those of Bigfoot and UFO hunters.
See you, and raise you the 6th Commandment, and the UN Declaration of Human Rights: 6th Commandment: "Thou shalt do no murder/thou shalt not kill". Premeditated, cold-blooded killing of human beings by the State is murder, in my mind. Has the mass-'murder' of the 700+ people on death row in California started yet? Statistics show that about 100 of them could well be innocent...as another factor. http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/ Article 3. Everyone has the right to life, ............. Article 5. No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. Article 7. All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination. US death chambers [and in Indonesia et al] ... It's all death dealing...the state and its executioners dealing in death. Killing prisoners in death chambers, then going home to their own families. http://www.auschwitz.dk/hoess.htm ...he went home each night to the loving embrace of his own family. An affectionate husband who kissed his wife morning and night, and tucked his children into bed. Troy Davis was alive...then a corpse...executed in a death chamber by the State/Govt. One corpse, and counted.
I believe your worship of the United Nations must take precedence over the worship of God. As I have posted in other threads, my thinking is along the lines of this: www.theologyonline.com/DEATH.HTML The moral laws in the Old Testament still apply. If they are so offensive to you, why not take a Sharpie and mark them out? Do you even have a Bible?
That is it. Perhaps the man was guilty, perhaps not. What if...we find out some day that he wasn't? Who will fall on the sword for his death? All those who cheered his demise? If someone is guilty, without doubt, 100%, that's one argument for the death penalty. But if there is even a shadow of a doubt, as in this case, why don't we investigate further, instead of regurgitating what amounts to circumstantial evidence?
A "shadow of doubt" could mean that Bigfoot or the space aliens did it. When there were 35 witnesses on a killing in a Burger King parking lot that is more than enough evidence. The major media and other death penalty antagonists had both lied about and covered up the facts in the Troy Davis murder case. Liberals walk over all the dead bodies lying in the streets of their urban hell-holes then fawn over the people who did the crimes. They are more worried about a criminal's possible innocence than punishing the criminal---those with criminal records like Troy Davis, and especially, those with long violent criminal records. Hang all criminals after their 3rd or greater violent felony conviction. THAT would be compassion.
Sure do. It's 2011 now...we've moved on from the Old Testament's and Nazi Germany's death chambers. Well some of us have anyway. Not California though, it has renovated its gas chamber and built a brand new death chamber as well for the extermination of the 700+ convicteds on its death row. We're now doing human rights and life in prison no parole, "let God decide", so outraged by the barbarity of the alternative have we been. We're not having convicteds 'murdered' by the state in our name, so we just sentence them to life without parole in Supermax, and there they stay for the rest of their natural lives. They're not going anywhere, and there is no escape. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EJFuYjwRys"]INSIDE THE SUPERMAX PRISON AT GOULBURN - PART 1 - YouTube[/ame] INSIDE THE SUPERMAX PRISON AT GOULBURN - PART 1 [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VpCqwPyMJk"]INSIDE THE SUPERMAX PRISON AT GOULBURN - PART 2 - YouTube[/ame] INSIDE THE SUPERMAX PRISON AT GOULBURN - PART 2
Has any one of these thugs on death row in California been perfect upstanding citizens before being caught and found guilty of doing just one act of murder? Anyone of them? Almost certainly not. So there is no chance of executing an "innocent" person since they all have records. What is a tragedy is the money wasted on these violent killers. According to Talk Left website, in 2009 California spent $124,150 avg. on each of the 670 death row inmates or $83 million a year. A foolish waste of taxpayer resourses. For a few thousand dollars one can contrust a gallows that can be resused over and over, and not require the services of an MD that may not be allowed by the political winds of the State Medical Board. There will no real change in our corrupt appeals system until harmful laws like the 14 Amendment (due process) can be repealed, and false interpretations of "cruel and unusual punishment" from socialist judges like Warren and T. Marshall since 1958 be abolished by new federal legislation.
I read a moderate amount of information regarding the Troy Davis case, and while not obviously having all facts, all juror or judicial facts, I do not have a reasonable doubt regarding his guilt. I think he did it, and was executed for it.
Yes due process as stated in the 14th, not the 5th Amendment. The 14th has been used as a power grab by leftwing activists in the courts for federal control of our private lives. The 14th has been used to turn our nation into a "police state" of sorts that places federal rights over states' rights. It should be ripped up root and branch.
When there is positive PROOF of guilt, I am completely in favor of execution criminals. If for no other reason than it stops forever their ability to ever commit another crime. I do have other reasons.
