Albanian Kills Serb Because He wouldn't Sell his Property

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  1. MegaArgus1

    MegaArgus1 New Member

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    This is not playing or speculation. Just to know the true history. That will not change the fact that they are Albanians, you are Muslims, we are Macedonians and so on with the others. I may have Bosnian origin but if I feel that I am Macedonian than I am Macedonian and nobody has any right to question that so I do not question the national feelings to anyone and I am expecting the same treatment from the others.
     
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    We speak about the origin and the truth is that we all come from the same peninsula. Albanians coming to Balkans in 16th century as stated in non sense encyclopedia is slander and try to provoke. As much as you feel yourself Slav for example ignoring for example Ilyrian origin the same do Albanians. It is proven that they got majority Illyrian origin and that they kept most of Illyrian tradition in terms of giving names, language contains majority of words of Illyrian group of Indo European languages and so on and so forth. Who they are and where they come from is not questionable at all.
     
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    The giving names is the result that it was believed that they are direct descendants from Illyrians and we are direct descendants form Slavs. Do not rush with judgement abut origin of the Albanians. Keep all options open that is the only way to see the truth. As I said before whatever the truth might be they will not make them less Albanians than they are but they might be less Illyrians.
    As per the language it might have or may not have some relations with Illyrians since we all others speak Slavic but they have Slavic words in their language and it may make them Slavs. If Bosnians with 40% Illirian DNA are considered Slavs why Albanians with 30% Illirian DNA must be pure Illirians?
     
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    Bosnians are considered to be Slavs because no one ever really had any interest in questioning their origin and those who did they got bunch of laugh and tomatos in their face by croatian and serb historians who measure origin of peoples by language they speak only.
    I never said that anyone is pure, but in terms of maintaining identity they were those who were most determined to do so due to the historical overturns in Balkans.
     
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    I didnt mean First Illyrians I meant possibly older than Illyria if not Illyrian because the Albanian Language borrows a bit from Illyrian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrian_languages#Possible_relation_to_Albanian

    Albanians must have been around at that time to have Illyrian connections so it must be Illyrian or older.
     
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    This really isnt new information.
     
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    Muslims: I am not Muslim. My family is not Muslim. Most Albanians, like myself, do not care about religon.
     
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    Probably because Albania used to be Occupied by the Serbian Empire. Whats your point? Are you saying that we are Slavs or Serbs? Your Macedonian arent you? Thats like if I asked you why Cities in Macedonia has a Albanian Translation names (Skopje(Shkup)Debar(Diber)Struga, etc.. Or why the GREEK gods can be translated into Albanian:
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioiqUWrMmkE"]Albanian Language: Names Origin of the Ancient Gods. - YouTube[/ame]
    Obviously over thousands of years, we tend to Overlap each others history
     
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    Not at all. That portion was not occupyed by the Sebs but settled by Macedonian Slavs and some are still there even though many alresy Albanized. The mountain Timor was the last point of resistane or the Macedonian king Vlastislav Radomir against the Byzantine emperor Vasilius II.
     
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    What ever the religion among the Albanians they are still Albanians. But that is not case with the dumb Slabs.
     
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    So you are telling that Albanians are something else than Illirians? So what about the theory that you came very late from Asia as nomads?
     
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    Finally we work on the same frequency. But the same applies to Serbs and Croats, I still thing that you all have the same origin. Similar with the Macedonians just the Illiric portion is replaced by Ancient Macedonians which is about 33% as pet the DNA tests????? Those tests may be too rough but they indicate that the Greek connection with the Ancient Macedonians is absolute zero (that small % is is from Aegean Macedonia).
     
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    I dont know what we are. We MIGHT be Illyrian. we MIGHT be Asian Nomads(Although I doubt it). We cant have come here late because our language is Indo-Europian like German and Balto-Slavic. We were called Kingdom of Albania in the Middle ages. When did these "Asian Nomads" arrive exactly? We were recognised in the Roman Empire as Arbanasi. The Greeks mentioned us as Arbon in 2BC. Serbia even calls us Albania in 1198. Plus if we came late as Asian Nomads how could we have Illyrian connections if they werent a country at the time?
     
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    We are all mixture of everything and anything and that is something in which we should be proud of. The problems come from the myths showing black-white picture. Who came first and from where is not important anyway all of them merged with the old timers and so on. We as Macedonians are mixture of many nations but the main characteristic is the Slav language which does not imply that the Slavs were the major ingredient. Anyway I am up to believing that I am Slav in which all other predecessors who lived in Macedonia before the Slavs included their DNA.
     
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    I am saying that we all have similar origin, we can't have same ingredient in our DNA but truth speaking Albanians and Serbs are more similar in their genetic tissue than Bosnians and Serbs xD
     
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    If Anyone has similar Tissue, Its Albanians and Bosnians. Id say Serbs and Croats have similar tissue, not us.
     
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    It may or it may not be so. You are too angry to them (we know what happen) and are trying to be different as much as possible. You may be right, I do not know, but personally I cannot see difference. Try to overcome the past and find the way of common life.
     
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    definition of Bosnian-every citizen of Bosnia and Herzegovina breathing in Bosnian-Herzegovinian oxygen and breathing out CO2 anywhere else.
    Now, so called Bosnian Serbs and Croats have a bit different historical overturns than those in Serbia and Croatia and I would strongly advise you to take a look over historical scripts and than talk crap about common life thing - because I'm speaking about Serb(ian)s not our local orthodox population :bored:
     
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    Huh, I've no idea how to 'debate' so many erudites on this thread; especially the ones who are trying to deny or doubt (?!?) other people basic rights to declare them self freely about their ethnicity :roll:
    'Local Orthodox populus' in Bosnia and Herzegovina are Serbs, they declare them selves as ones and they live mostly in Republika Srpska. IF, just for the sake of this circus, we say that they are Vlachs, it would place them even in a better position 'cause they would have every right to claim whole Bosnia from a historical point of view.
    However, calling a Serb in Bosnia-Vlach, is regarded as pejorative, same goes if I'd call you 'Balija' or 'Mudzahedin' I'm very sure you know that, Frozy.


    Serbs are Slavs and we're proud of who we are; the rest of you guys can place your nation in any group (linguistic, political etc.) you wish to.
     
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    This sounds familiar, the Greeks say that they are talking about Slavophonic greeks. They say Macedonians are Greeks and those who claim to be Macedonians are advised that they do not know what they are talking about.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7tpRJfCmg0&feature=related"]Razgovor so eden Makedonec - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvfOaHmPINY"]Ovcaranec-Jas sum makedonec - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    ITALIAN FASCISTS WERE KILLING ROMAN CATHOLIC CROATS and besides they are not even indigenous to the territory.
     
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    ALBANIANS NEVER HAD AN EMPIRE OR EXISTED - OR WAS HEARD OF UNTIL the 10th century...BUT THEY WERE ALWAYS WITH THE OTTOMAN TURKS
     
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    THATS A CLEVER WAY NOT TO GET SCAPEGOATED BY DECLARING YOURSELF AN ATHEIST? LOL ...HAHAH

    why are they funding the new mosque in TIRANA?
     
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    there was no albanian kingdom in medieval times...GIVE ME YOUR REFERENCES..NAMES, DATES AND RULERS?

    ROMAN EMPIRE WAS NOT MEDIEVAL TIMES..BY THE WAY...
     
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    why are they funding the new church for 0.3% of catholics in Prishtina?
    to show how versatile they are, why wouldn't they btw? xD
     

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