Fort Hood jihad victims seek $750 million in compensation from the Army

If the Army is ordered to pay damages to Hasan's victims then the taxpayer will pay the damages, period. As for budget cuts, they don't concern matters of punishment, nor does a cut necessarily benefit the taxpayer...

 

Ah, more anti-Semite slurs. Got nothing else to offer? It is cute how you are horribly, utterly disgusted when assumed Semites wave American flags.

You can't even prove that the unknown forum members you slur racist hatred against are not Semites! All that you can prove is that you slur anti-Semitism against the unknown forum identity since you are utterly, horribly disgusted that they wave American flags.

 

Obviously, you chose to conveniently overlook the intense criticism in response to Womick's remarks and sentiments, Abu.

God protect us and our planet from such hyperbolic pearls of paranoid idiocy...

 

The sooner lawyers are not paid a percentage of the law suit, the better

 

Sounds like one needs to put more thought into punishing the spender rather than the taxpayer, if one must punish anyone other than Hasan. Any republicans in this thread?

 

Ah, more fabrications of non-existent slurs. Got nothing else to offer? It is cute how you are horribly, utterly disgusted when confronted with your own admissions of dishonesty.

Since I haven't slurred any racist hatred against anyone much less set out to prove anyone is or isn't a Semite, one can only wonder how you think that your latest lies will cover for your existing lies (?).

 

Nonsense. You clearly didn't follow the case. He was kept in the military because his fellow doctors and supervisors were too scared to get an EO complaint to do anything about his warning signs.

http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/11/08/general-casey-diversity-shouldnt-be-casualty-of-fort-hood/

 

More anti-Semites slurs. Nothing else to contribute to the discussion? You choose to target the messenger, thus such is identified as being anti-Semite slurs. If you don't love posting anti-Semite slurs like a typical Stormfront member, then stop sluring anti-Semitism against forum members. All that you have proven is that you attack the unknown identity with unconditional racist hatred based on false assumptions. Yet, such doesn't prove that the taxpayer must pay for crimes performed by someone else.

 

Why didn't anyone or everyone else complain if it was suppose to be so very obvious that he was going to commit a crime? Where were the major protests prior to the act?

 

Because the USA created a political correct atmosphere where one may not be judged just because they follow a extremely violent religion such as Islam, even when they show violent behavior. This is the entire reason why the relatives look for compensation.

 

Such suggests that the US government didn't manage the war on terrorism very well, but it doesn't place any blame of responsibility on the military, the residents of Killeen or the taxpayer. Should the victims thus focus their money-seeking program on the Bush or Obama administration, or both? Maybe Bush and Obama can come up with the lump sum together?

 

Your right, the US does not manage their war on terrorism ( resitting global genocidal jihad) very well. They missed lesson one. knowing your enemy.

 

The first step in understanding one's enemy, is to look at crime beyond religion. When one focuses to heavily on a single religion rather than crime, then one's efforts tend to become discredited or weakened since people observe that one takes no action against some crimes while being heavily concerned with religious-based non-crimes. This makes it more difficult to address concerns with religious-based non-crimes which may develop into criminal behavior.

 

It is the taxpayers who are footing the bill for all this, and if the families win anything, it will be a loss to taxpayers. The neocons will keep funding the military with billions no matter which way it goes.

I cannot blame the family members for the lawsuit, since it happened because of political correctness leading to willful negligence, but I hate to see the taxpayers get stuck with yet another expense we cannot afford now.

 

I already told you why "didn't anyone or everyone else complain if it was suppose to be so very obvious that he was going to commit a crime."

Specifically...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120162816

- the medical staff was very worried about this guy. He said the first thing is he's cold, unfriendly. At least that's who he came off. He did not do a good job as a psychiatrist in training, was repeatedly warned, you better shape up, or, you know, you're going to be in trouble. Did badly in his classes, seemed disinterested. But second of all - and this is, perhaps, you know, more relevant. The psychiatrist says that he was very proud and upfront about being Muslim. And psychiatrist hastened to say, and nobody minded that. But he seemed almost belligerent about being Muslim, and he gave a lecture one day that really freaked a lot of doctors out.

They have grand rounds, right? They, you know, dozens of medical staff come into an auditorium, and somebody stands at the podium at the front and gives a lecture about some academic issue, you know, what drugs to prescribe for what condition. But instead of that, he - Hasan apparently gave a long lecture on the Koran and talked about how if you don't believe, you are condemned to hell. Your head is cut off. You're set on fire. Burning oil is burned down your throat.

And I said to the psychiatrist, but this cold be a very interesting informational session, right? Where he's educating everybody about the Koran. He said but what disturbed everybody was that Hasan seemed to believe these things. And actually, a Muslim in the audience, a psychiatrist, raised his hand and said, excuse me. But I'm a Muslim and I do not believe these things in the Koran, and then I don't believe what you say the Koran says. And then Hasan didn't say, well, I'm just giving you one point of view. He basically just stared the guy down.

ZWERDLING: I want to add something else about Hasan at Walter Reed. The psychiatrist I talked to today said that he was the kind of guy who the staff actually stood around in the hallway, saying: Do you think he's a terrorist, or is he just weird? And now, apparently, Walter Reed is in a lockdown mode where they've been instructed - all the staff has been instructed: Do not talk to anybody about this investigation, except military people. Do not talk to the FBI, because they're afraid, potentially, what if people decide investigating this that people missed potential warning signs about the guy? You know, this is speculation still, but...

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/11/26/major-nidal-hasan-had-an-enabler/

Major Hasan couldn’t have been more straightforward about who and what he was. An army psychiatrist, he put “SoA”—i.e., “Soldier of Allah”—on his business card. At the Uniformed Services University of Health Sciences, he was reprimanded for trying to persuade patients to convert to Islam and fellow pupils objected to his constant “anti-American propaganda,” but, as the Associated Press reported, “a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim student kept officers from filing a formal written complaint.

[As the writer Barry Rubin pointed out, Major Hasan was the first mass murderer in U.S. history to give a PowerPoint presentation outlining the rationale for the crime he was about to commit. And he gave the presentation to a roomful of fellow army psychiatrists and doctors. Some of whom glanced queasily at their colleagues, but none of whom actually spoke up. And, when the question of whether then-Captain Hasan was, in fact, “psychotic,” the policy committee at Walter Reed Army Medical Center worried “how would it look if we kick out one of the few Muslim residents.”/I]

 

They should only be suing the idiots that made the decision not to act on the clear warning signs they had that Hasan might be a threat some day. Unfortunately, the real world doesn't work that way. The people that really ARE responsible, including Hasan himself, will no doubt live on consequence free. And no, I don't consider life imprisonment to be a just consequence for terrorism that results in the murder or taking of innocent lives.

 

I can easily picture the delerious moans of righteous indignation, and hysterical wrist flapping of the politically correct robotoids, if the US army "discriminated" against a minority nutcase.

 

If the blame can be narrowed down to some psychiatrists, rather than the entire US military, the residents of Texas, Killeen or the US taxpayer, then why not hold those individuals responsible who did not report their concerns to the FBI? What actions should be taken against individuals who did not act on suspicions?

 

The US Govt. needs to take the beating for all the deaths that occurred at Ft. Hood. The more harm inflicted on the federal govt. the better.

 

Why should the federal government be blamed or punished for the assumed unreported suspicisions of some psychiatrist individuals, simply because a collection of individuals related to the crime scene want to gain enourmous wealth at the expense of the taxpayer?

 

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Vicarious+Liability

 

So, shall the psychiatrist individuals who were suspicious be locked up for life, or will the death penalty do? I hope that no one has ever been suspicious of any activity and didn't report it to the assumed proper authority. Is there even a list somewhere which defines which suspicious activity one can report to which authority? Maybe the US government could adopt the Nazi method of dealing with such circumstances:

The police had the power to arrest any citizen merely on grounds of suspicion that he/she was an enemy of the state. No evidence or proof was required. Once named an enemy of the state, there was no protection for any citizen or their family. In Nazi custody, beatings, torture and death were the usual tools for maintaining order.

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no,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

Indeed actually the ones who let this happen should be trialed for treason.

 

Hey gang, we're talking about civil liability not criminal liability.