Mark Levin, a Neurosurgeon Calls In About Death Panels From Obamacare

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    Mark Levin, a Neurosurgeon Calls In About Death Panels From Obamacare
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKRsBSTgprU&feature=player_embedded"]Mark Levin, a Neurosurgeon Calls In About Death Panels From Obamacare and HHS - YouTube[/ame]

    Comment: Rockefeller Eugenics, Un Agenda 21

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    NWO Plans Exposed By Insider In 1969
    8-26-11

    LIMITING ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE MEDICAL

    A big item that was elaborated on at some length was the cost of medical care would be made burdensomely high. Medical care would be connected very closely with one's work but also would be made very, very high in cost so that it would simply be unavailable to people beyond a certain time. Unless they had a remarkably rich, supporting family, they would just have to do without care. And the idea was that if everybody says, "Enough! What a burden it is on the young to try to maintain the old people," then the young would become agreeable to helping Mom and Dad along the way, provided this was done humanely and with dignity. Then the example was - there could be a nice, farewell party, a real celebration. Mom and Dad had done a good job. Then after the party's over they take the 'demise pill'.

    PLANNING THE CONTROL OVER MEDICINE

    The next topic is Medicine. There would be profound changes in the practice of medicine. Overall, medicine would be much more tightly controlled. The observation that was made in 1969 that, "Congress is not going to go along with national health insurance, is now, abundantly evident. But it's not necessary, we have other ways to control health care". These would come about more gradually, but all health care delivery would come under tight control. Medical care would be closely connected to work. If you don't work or can't work, you won't have access to medical care. The days of hospitals giving away free care would gradually wind down, to where it was virtually non-existent. Costs would be forced up so that people won't be able to afford to go without insurance. People pay for it, you're entitled to it. It was only subsequently that I began to realise the extent to which you would not be paying for it. Your medical care would be paid for by others. Therefore, you would gratefully accept, on bended knee, what was offered to you as a privilege. Your role being responsible for your own care would be diminished. As an aside here, this is not something that was developed at that time; I didn't understand it at the time that it was an aside.

    The way this works, everybody has made dependent on insurance and if you don't have insurance then you pay directly; the cost of your care is enormous. The insurance company, however, paying for your care, does not pay that same amount. If you are charged, say, $600 for the use of an operating room, the insurance company does not pay $600; they only pay $300 or $400. That differential in billing has the desired effect: It enables the insurance company to pay for that which you could never pay for. They get a discount that's unavailable to you. When you see your bill you're grateful that the insurance company could do that. And in this way you are dependent, and virtually required to have insurance. The whole billing is fraudulent. Access to hospitals would be tightly controlled and identification would be needed to get into the building. The security in and around hospitals would be established and gradually increased so that nobody without identification could get in or move around inside the building. Theft of hospital equipment, things like typewriters and microscopes and so forth would be 'allowed' and exaggerated; reports of it would be exaggerated so that this would be the excuse needed to establish the need for strict security until people got used to it. Anybody moving about the hospital would be required to wear an identification badge with a photograph and telling why he was there, employee or lab technician or visitor or whatever. This is to be brought in gradually, getting everybody used to the idea of identifying themselves - until it was just accepted. This need for ID to move about would start in small ways: hospitals, some businesses, but gradually expand to include everybody in all places! It was observed that hospitals can be used to confine people and for the treatment of criminals. This did not mean, necessarily, medical treatment. At that time I did not know the term 'Psycho-Prison' (*) they are in the Soviet Union, but, without trying to recall all the details, basically, he was describing the use of hospitals both for treating the sick, and for confinement of criminals for reasons other than the medical well-being of the criminal. The definition of criminal was not given.

    ELIMINATION OF PRIVATE DOCTORS

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    Peter Singer styled bioethics plus rising medical costs plus government controlled healthcare equals AMF
     
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    Comfort Care ? as in the clip, see the following

    The Intelligent Woman’s guide to Socialism and Capitalism 1928
    Fabian Socialist George Bernard Shaw
     
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    So the Neurosurgeon was lying???
     
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    Being a Neurosurgeon makes you immune to hysterics and misinformation?

    The guy is an expert on the brain, not domestic health policy.
     
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    This is what the voice of denial and ignorance sounds like, it seems.
     
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    He said he went to Washington to meet with a group on the healthcare law.
    I'm sure he's bright enough to know how to understand things.

    Believe me I would trust the doctor over Ubama and his minions any day of the week.
     
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    Selective hearing on your part. You have deluded yourself, refusing to accept any information that clearly debunks your theories.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMOrGTDlzjg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMOrGTDlzjg[/ame]
     
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    How can ANYONE doubt such a fine source of Truth? :omg:

    I certainly base all of MY choices on anonymous callers on nutcase call-in radio shows!

    Certainly, The Neurosurgeon is an authority we can TRUST!

    But I am a little perplexed. I made the hubcap time travel machine described by the farmboy on the Coast to Coast radio network with George Noory (where i learned how to hide my brain cells from the jet Chem-trails!), but it just won't fire up!
     
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    I want to see the exact chapter and subsections of Obamacare that call for patients over 70 to be thrown under the bus like this.
     
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    The guy is intimately involved in domestic health policy on a daily basis.
     
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    You are very correct, Yosh Shmenge.

    "Alexis de Tocqueville warned democracies of the extraordinary dangers of the consolidation and centralization of power. He warned:

    A democratic republic … in which … administrative centralization was accepted by custom and by law … would become more intolerable than in any of the absolute monarchies of Europe.

    He presciently added:

    It may easily be foreseen that almost all the able and ambitious members of a democratic community will labor unceasingly to extend the powers of government, because they all hope at some time or other to wield those powers themselves. It would be a waste of time to attempt to prove to them that extreme centralization may be injurious to the state, since they [people like Obama and Eric Holder and Timothy Getihner] are centralizing it for their own benefit.

    The individual mandate is only the tip of the iceberg. It’s time to repeal Obamacare."

    http://pjmedia.com/blog/what-else-is-wrong-with-obamacare/2/
     
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    I hope he wears a condom when he does it.
     
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    Why?

    : marked by very close association, contact, or familiarity <intimate knowledge of the law
     
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    Mark Levine said they vetted him, you must have missed that huh???
    That's more than I can say for Ubama.
     
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    :laughing:
     
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    Well if some guy called a talk show and said so then it must be true. Sounds reasonable to me. DUH! <Facepalm>
     
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    :lol

    Mark Levine's personal assurance that an anonymous caller guest on his talk show making outrageous and ENTIRELY undocumented claims is certainly good enough for ANYONE's 100% trust, I am sure.

    In fact, that SAME "The Neurosurgeon" just emailed me an offer for penis enlargement pills that will DOUBLE my manhood for a mere $300!

    "The Neurosurgeon" must REALLY know his stuff!
     
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    Is he? How can you be sure - do you have this person's name, address and where they are currently practicing?
     
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    Its always advisable to look deeper into an issue, instead of being led by partisan pundits who, btw, make a great living inciting the public.
    Ignorance is our greatest enemy, always has been, always will be.
     
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    Yes, Mr. Levin is about as partisan as you can be.

    Once we're past an anonymous caller with "claims," I'll have more interest...
     
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    Convince me he is not who he said he was.
     
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    The leftist losers sure are fascinated by the good doctor and what he knows...LOL
     
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    Any type of mass healthcare plan would have rationing, whether it be publicly sponsored or a private sponsorship. The issue is HOW that rationing is decided.

    The current system in the us rations based on how much you can pay, Doesn't it?

    Would it not be better to ration based on likelihood that the treatment would be successful and at the same time, Try to cover as many people as possible, whether they be rich or poor?

    Thank you for your time.
     

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