ron paul inspires domestic terrorists

So the other side of that is the Constitution is not worth fighting for, and you agree with that then?

This was a very well known sentiment from the founders, while I disagree with the verbiage, the other side of what you're saying is just as wrong, probably more so actually.

Still making (*)(*)(*)(*) up I see dujac?

I didn't even read the OP, I just know Dujac is a fool, I dont need to.

 

Mkay, too bad for you that the article doesn't mention libertarianism AT ALL. If you'd like I could quote Charles Manson and then just out of the blue attribute his words to your ideology...same thing.

 

Man this thread is sick. Ron Paul may have some loony ideas, but all of us do and the left has plenty on thier side who see a conspiracy in every closet.

I may not agree with Ron Paul but he's a good man and a patriot and deserves better than to have this kind of crap smeared on him.

 

they're libertarians, despite your denials

he's a liar that wallows around in crap all the time

 

Yeah, I didn't see Ron Paul's name mentioned anywhere in the actual article, either. I guess he thinks anyone that mentions the constitution is a Ron Paul supporter. The OP is total bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

you're projecting the contents of your own mind, not reality


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Bedell's anti-government views on his blog are also buttressed by his Facebook page, since deleted but image captured, wherein he associated himself as a fan of the libertarian Ludwig von Mises Institute, Lew Rockwell, and Shelly Roche (a self-described libertarian).

A blog on Blogspot named Rothbardix (a probable reference to anarcho-capitalist Murray Rothbard), that appears to be authored by Bedell, subscribes to many libertarian beliefs, including, "The most basic principle of economic justice is the protection of private property and the protection of the right to freely exchange that property.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Pentagon_shooting

 

Not sure how you're getting that these people are libertarians, or somehow involved with Ron Paul. There is a line I'd like you to take a look at. It's in bold, underlined, and italicized. I believe it says a lot more about their affiliation than your title or strange assertion, being that it's actually in the article. BTW nazis aren't exactly libertarians. I'd explain the differences but you'd just ignore it because it doesn't flow with what you want the article to say.

 

The ron paul bashing has fallen to a new low.

 

Look, it's easy. Either prove that Ron Paul truly inspired these whackos or **** and admit that you made it all up.

 

LOL

Liberalism's attacks on anything right wing have reached a new low every month since Carter. I'm amazed they are willing to stoop to such depths honestly.

 

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Information is being released on John Patrick Bedell, the man who shot two police officers at the Pentagon before being killed. His internet postings reveal that he was a libertarian, conspiracy theorist and fan of the Ludwig von Mises Institute Facebook group. The Ludwig von Mises Institute is a think tank that has a working relationship with Ron Paul and is headed by Paul’s former chief of staff, Lew Rockwell. His facebook page also listed him as a fan of Paul’s former chief of staff and current confidant, Lew Rockwell.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4408406069_ab871e021c_o.jpg

 

You saw fit to post the above in your OP and to use the bold text as if that part signifies a terrorist mentality.

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From Thomas Jefferson...

"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independent 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century & a half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure."

From....

The "Tree of Liberty" letter

From Thomas Jefferson to William Smith... November 13, 1787

 

Ridiculous statement . .again!

I consider myself to be a liberal, at least my opinions are definitevely ledt of the center.

I have stated several times before that Ron Paul is the only GOO candidate that has demonstrated integrity and honesty, as well as intelligence.

I may not agree with many of his ideas, but I respect the man, and mANY of myprogressive friends also respect him.

I think the GOP extremists are so full of BS and so stuck in their delusions that they will not give Ron Paul a chance to win the primarie.

Ron Paul should just run as an independent.

 

And the son of sam was inspired by a dog. Should we dislike dogs?

 

Man Ron Paul looks really different. Oh wait that's not him. Is that one of the people who were arrested? What does this guy have to do with anything?

Clearly your OP should have been based on this guy. BTW did you know John Wayne Gacy was a Democrat? That means the Democratic party encourages murdering teens, right?

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you're being fooled

ron paul lies and says he didn't write anything in his own newsletters

does that sound like he has integrity, honesty or intelligence?

source and evidence

you don't know what you're talking about

hint: if you watch the video, you might get a clue as to what it's about

 

I left for a week, I come back and again balsack is at the Ron Paul threads again.

This should be considered spam, same stuff, different thread and not a shred of relevance about Ron Paul.

You need to get a life balsack!!

LOL!!

 

Libertarianism ; 1. philosophy advocate of individual responsibility: somebody who believes in the doctrine of free will
2. politics advocate of individual freedom: somebody who believes that people should have complete freedom of thought and action and should not be subject to the authority of the state

Liberalism ;

1. politics progressive views: a belief in tolerance and gradual reform in moral, religious, or political matters

2. politics political theory stressing individualism: a political ideology with its beginnings in western Europe that rejects authoritarian government and defends freedom of speech, association, and religion, and the right to own property

3. economics free-market economics: an economic theory in favor of free competition and minimal government regulation~


I was surprised how often these two terms were mixed up, however I am not saying anyone in this forum has confused the words. English is my 'second' language, and words like the aforementioned are confusing sometimes! So I posted this for those of us that may have a different learning experience and upbringing eh? ~ ha ha~ !

I feel that Libertarianism is prone to promote violence more often than other 'systems'. (just guessing). That is not a bad thing, not at all! I am often at odds with positive law (vs natural law). Additionally I pine for the south to have won the war between the states precisely for the state government having authority as powerful as or more powerful in some areas than the federal government. That statement is related to the topic because of definition 2 implications. Additionally, the reason I feel Lib. is more prone to producing violence is definition # 2 (above) i.e. specifically the bolded section [mine]; "politics advocate of individual freedom: somebody who believes that people should have complete freedom of thought and action and should not be subject to the authority of the state". I am more more of a Libertarian than a liberal. I fully embrace civil disobedience when all other venues have fell on deaf ears or where there is a corrupt system in place. I believe our forefathers would of wished it so.

Lastly I like Ron Paul as well. I fully support his semi isolationist policy (he says he is not an isolationist but it sounds that way to me!). However he has a few rough edges that need to be addressed before I would vote for him, unless it is he and Obama in the race, which is very unlikely. One of the areas that I am not sure I could support him is in defense and even some international policy issues.


Rev A

 

OK, so a nazi supports Ron Paul, thus Ron Paul supports terrorism.
A murderer supports the Democratic Party, thus the Democratic Party supports murders.

Well that or we could use basic logic, but I know you would be opposed to that. Clearly nothing more to see here.

 

it's quite simple, ron paul attracts these people because they like what he says



Stephen Donald Black is an American white nationalist. He is the founder, and current webmaster, of the Stormfront internet forum. He was a Grand Wizard in the Ku Klux Klan and a member of the American Nazi Party in the 1970s. He was convicted in 1981 for attempted armed overthrow of the Dominican government in violation of the U.S. Neutrality Act.

In a 1998 interview for the alternative weekly newspaper Miami New Times, Black is quoted as saying "We want to take America back. We know a multicultural Yugoslav nation can't hold up for too long. Whites won't have any choice but to take military action. It's our children whose interests we have to defend." In December 2007, Black gained attention for donating money to Ron Paul's 2008 presidential run.

On May 5, 2009 it was announced that Black was one of the 22 on a British Home Office list of individuals banned from entering the United Kingdom for "promoting serious criminal activity and fostering hatred that might lead to inter-community violence"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Black_(white_nationalist)

 

Politicians can not pick who supports them I suppose. Obama hugged up with 'God(*)(*)(*)(*) America' Rev Wright and at pal around least one member of the weather underground, a terror group from the radical 60's. He also made some highly questionable comments that seemed to support such things back in his early days...

Rev A

 

they can most certainly influence who supports them by what they advocate

for example: ron paul supports states' rights and denounces the civil rights act

 

Yes of course! However many times extremists (right left or center) either intentionally or otherwise do not hear the same message that everyone else hears. I do not think Ron Paul has terrorist roots, however I do think his mind set is as mine and a few other libertarians. That is if civil disobedience is needed and 'righteous' its morally and ethically valid. The only question is the level of the CD, when does it cross the line between being moral and ethical to being criminal and immoral etc, which is the subjective million dollar question.

Well if that is the case he may have supported the biggest act of civil disobedience in history, the civil war, which many scholars and historians claim was in actuality fought for states rights, and as per my prior posts (above and other) I agree with those experts.



Rev A

 

you understand the meaning of 'states' right's' as a code word, don't you?

 

What's a code word? Do you mean a button word? As in he is pushing my buttons ha ha? Just kidding I don't know what a code word is.

Rev A