Christians, how would you react to a masgue opening near you?

If your desire is to lie with your enemies as they slaughter you. Oh, how satan must enjoy your posts.

 

Thank you for the concern habibi, but it is you who should try to find Isa

That was even more arrogant lol. I am a proud Muslim, thank you very much.

Yeah I see what you're saying.

I think it's funny actually. The most intolerant are the ones who truly believe they are tolerant. Atleast most of the time that's the case.

سلام

 

But do you think الله enjoys your posts?

Or are they more a thing for شيطان enjoyment?

FYI: الله = God and شيطان = Satan

سلام (which means "peace")

 

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!

 

Hypocrisy exists all over the world, in every group. Christians, including American Christians are not immune.

The Haitian boat people are not the only one who are refused asylum!

Remember the story of the St. Louis? The ship carrying almost 1000 mostly German Jews trying to escape Nazi persecutions in Germany was refused disembarkment, first in Havana, then in the US, and the Jewish people on the ship were sent back to Europe, mostly receiving asylum in Holland and Belgium, which led to their being exterminated in concentration camps, once the host countries (Holland and Belgium) were invaded by the German.

No. . .Christianity is not always an assurance of good will or empathy!

 

What is a masque?

I am not able to imagine one opening near me - from the time I was aware of what a mosque is there were already many in my city.

Some of them have extremist elements. So do some churches/other groups *shrug*.

 

What a disgusting post. You never read the Qur'an. You read parts of a 'version' that is a pure lie. I have taken apart 'quotes' from that site 100 times with an actual Qur'an in my lap comparing.

 

I wouldn't go that far unless Obama vetoes this bill that could have you detained for suspicion of terrorism.

 

I have 10 days of food in my house at all times....So I can be arrested under that law already. So, why should I not go ahead and hand out with Muslims?

 

That hasn't happened in 1400 years. it's not going to happen now either.

All mosques are an extreme danger. Until Islam is reformed, and all Muslims acknowledge the reformation (non-supremacist with all bad suras removed from the Koran), Islam should be banned in America.

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...s-does-matter-whether-80-1-a.html#post4812795

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...97-shouldnt-islam-banned-usa.html#post4812854

 

And what do you say about Suras 4:34, 9:5, and 9:123 ?

 

Today we ban Islam tommorow you will see Christianity banned

 

Why ?????????????

 

Giving what I do for a living, I think it would take gumption beyond imagination for some idiot to arrest me for being freindly and inviting to a new neighbor.

Trust me, that would not go well for them.

US Army Ranger arrested for being freindly to Muslim neighbor ...

But, but ... SAH, He done brought them a fruit basket!!!!

 

Maybe you should talk to some of the atheists on this forum.

"If you choose to ignore logic and knowledge in order to believe in an invisible magic man in the sky, or Santa Claus for that matter, you've made a ridiculous decision and we're not going to pretend it's "just another way of looking at things."

http://www.atheists.org/religion

You really think atheists like this will stop with Islam? Or is ours just the next dirty rag to them?

 

Our legal system is based on precadent if one religion can be banned so can another. Today it would be unthinkable, but in 50 years who knows what the world will be like. It is why you must guard against the stripping of any of our rights and freedoms. Do you want to trust the fate of the Christian Churches in America to future politicions that you dont even know?

 

Quote it from Pickthall and I will tell you.

 

Easy.

4:34 - The word translated into beat them has more than one meaning. One of those meanings is "seperate". Now, take the context of the verse:

(http://quran.com/4/34)

It would make sense, in the context of the verse - and the Quran in it's entirety and the Hadiths - for the word translated "strike" to actually be leave them. First tell them what they are doing is wrong, then don't sleep with them, and lastly leave them.

For a more detailed explanation, see: http://www.ruqaiyyah.karoo.net/articles/beating.htm

9:5 - This verse:

(http://quran.com/9/5)

It cannot be understand without considering other verses related to it, such as 9:4:

(http://quran.com/9/4)

And 9:6:

(http://quran.com/9/6)

There is nothing wrong with verse 9:5, it is referring to a time of war. A specific time for the Muslims of this time, as they were being persecuted by the Pagan tribes. Verse 9:7 further proves this:

(http://quran.com/9/7)

This is a specific event relevant to the Muslims of this time. Notice how الله SWT does not give us permission to violent wage war against them, rather he commands the Muslims to be peaceful unless provoked.

9:123 - Verse 9:123:

(http://quran.com/9/123)

In the context, where the following verse 9:124 states:

(http://quran.com/9/124)

We can see الله SWT is talking about the hypocrites who were pretending to be Muslims and causing problems or the real Muslims. It is not talking about random acts of war against any non-believers, when taken with the entire context of the Quran which constantly repeats for Muslims to defend themselves but not be transgressors, we can see this.

You show once again you do not understand the Quran. I have repeated myself many times to oh, but this post is mainly to the other people who view this thread and believe your nonsense.

سلام

 

Agreed. But Jesus is.

 

What about God?

سلام

 

Jesus is God Incarnate. Not just another prophet as you might believe. The Quran is nothing more than the misguided writings of a demented pagan who indulged his flesh and had the gall to proclaim that the writings of Paul were a corruption of the Word.

 

But Muhammad (PBUH) could neither read nor write. And Muslims were being persecuted by Pagans because they were not Pagan. So this claim is hard to believe.

God was God. Jesus (PBUH) was a messenger of God. His message was Christianity. A few Christians and Jews corrupted this message, like the message before it (Torah) was corrupted. The Quran has avoided this corruption. A Muslim is expected to memorize the Quran by heart, since the days of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) like he did. We are to do this so, if somebody attempt to change the Quran, we can stop them and the Quran will stay pure. It has not been changed since day one.

At least, these are my beliefs. Take them for what they are worth.

سلام

 

I think most holy books are accurate, including the Koran.

The problem, despite many silly attempts, is not acuracy, but interpretation. That too is a problem that comes out in all religions.

After all, we have the Church of Jesus Christ Christian, which somehow twists scripture to support neo-Nazi fanatics - despite the very clear referrences to all men being equal and created by God. How that works? Well, some things are not rational.

In Islam, and I use this as an example only as it was rare, I had several corrupt officials in the Middle East essentially justify their corruption by claiming that the Koran supported the treachery against unbelievers. As your quotes above indicate, that is well wide of the mark - it also made hash of the fact that the victims of the corruption were the citizens of their own country, and not the supposed foreign powers he was bilking (for the benefit of Islam apparently).

People will justify just about anything when they choose to rationalize it. Fortuantely, the one thing holy books give us is wide dessemination of an objective standard of judgement. On these standards of judgement, most religions seem to see more in common than not.

 

How would i react. I'd be peaceful. But i'd also make sure all my guns were in good working order and i was well stocked with bullets.

I'd be watching for verbal or physical attacks on kufirs in the area. That is a tell tale sign or radicalization and a certain saturation point reached.

trust but verify.

 

Interpretation is EVERYTHING these days... People can twist holy Books to justify whatever they want. It happens with all books too, like you've mentioned.

I don't want to come off as bashing the Bible or Christianity. I'm not. When I say it's been corrupted, what I mean is some things have been changed by man to fit their specific views. But I don't mean it as an insult (although I can't blame somebody for being insulted I do try and be respectful about it).

Salam