So if you happen to believe the sun will come around again tomorrow, according to you, you are lying to yourself??
First : is God another form of human life ? it has been given a sex , a voice , but who translated his speeches , MEMRI ? It didn't even told us anything about planets and all the stuff , yet he should have known.
Evidently we were on a need to know basis and too immature to handle the truth. Parents are that way sometimes. Look at some of the ridiculous nonsense they tell their kids. The stork to explain sex so they don't have too, tooth fairies (haven't got a clue), Easter Bunnies, and Santa Claus so kids can have something to do on religious holidays. Oh and the boogie man, and that dreaded bed bug?? How the heck are you supposed to sleep after that? 　 　 I remember seeing a couple of the older kids on the bus flipping each other the bird, and when i asked my dad about it, he says, oh it doesn't mean anything, just don't do it in front of your mother!? 　 　 Parents just make sh(*)(*) up when they don't want to have to go through a long lengthy discussion. It's called bad parenting, and I guess God, or if it turns out there really isn't a God, whomever was responsible for the original story of God was obviously that way too.
Actually, if you can fathom the concept of a multi-verse scenario, the quantity of possible civilizations/life forms is truly 'infinite' meaning that due solely to the huge quantity of possibilities that the 'YOU' might exist 10, 1000, a billion times. This would be tantamount to you playing the lottery an infinite number of times using the same numbers in which you will win multiple times. So...the YOU is not alone...
Ever see the movie, "The Invention of Lying"? It has a funny explanation for the advent of religion. Check it out if you already haven't, good flick.
Yes I have seen it, and it has an interesting concept to it. I doubt many religious nut jobs would appreciate the theory behind it.
Valid point. Well stated. I don't know where the OP is coming from, but it's not this planet. Therefore, the OP's given is moot.
If it's true that no two sets of fingerprints are the same and no two retinas match and that the atomic structure of anything isn't identical to the atomic structure of anything else. Isn't it possible that life exists here, on the earth, but doesn't exist anywhere else in the universe? I personally don't believe that that's true, but isn't it possible? If you believe that it isn't possible, then why do you believe that?
If life exists in other areas of the universe it most likely will have a significant difference than what we have or understand here, even if there are similarities, the stages of production/evolution could and most likely would have been different. 　
I think that what I'm getting at is; belief that life exists somewhere else in he universe, regardless of whether or not that belief is relatively logical and rational, is still just 'belief'. Possibly faith. There is no evidence to base that belief on.
Do you accept the hypothesis of abiogenesis (technically it's a postulation, really), or supernatural explanations for the beginning of life on Earth?
Biogenesis. My question is about biogenesis occurring throughout the universe. I don't doubt that it does. But that doesn't mean that there's any proof that it does. I simply believe that it does. Those that prefer supernatural explanations have no proof either. They simply believe.
What's the difference? I *believe* that leprechauns don't exist because they probably don't. Just like I *believe* life on other planets in the universe probably exists because it probably does. Whether you refer to "accepting something which is probable as, well, being probable" as "faith", is irrelevant.
It's not a belief if you have logical reasoning behind it. I also think that life is likely because even if abiogenesis is extremely rare, the universe is insanely vast. The closer you move to infinity, the closer the probability goes to 1.
I am amazed by the level of simple logic of the thought expressed here ( by Polscie ) and everywhere, for the average citizen : as if mathematics and physics were no longer at all taught from a young age. The main thing that this education gives to young , starting from 10 or 11 years, this is not about to show that the remarkable points of a triangle are Aligned, but is the form of mind that teaches this kind of reasoning. And this tool for the mind is of major importance in plain life ! When the author of the subject, parachute us his question and his answer,in an unic package, we can conclude two things: He has a normal intelligence (he raises a valid question), but the fact that it immediately gives "his" response , without any reasoning to support his own answer , it shows that he has never learned to use it (his native intelligence is,but he doesn't know how to use it) He does not seem to know any rules of logic or reason. In fact, his immediate response shows that he treats his own question without any other knowledge that one which is "given" by the media, or cheurch or... any ready-made reply-tank . It's almost esoteric. We can't think the world with opinions, advices,belief .. but there must be facts, analysis and reasoning which deals with these datas. We , human , can't do nothing but that ! It's our ONLY AND UNIC human gift ! Excluding this, we are in the world of beliefs, cults, sects, the mentally ill. Yet these ways of treating the world don't work! We would 'have never been able to invent the wheel with people confined to this atrophied use of their intelligence . This result seems to be due to a premeditated destruction of our education. Anything that promotes the positive and critical intelligence seems to be eradicated. As soon we hear some news , as soon the total mental conditioning of this type of individual gives immediatly the answer , induced by the associated pressure of advertising & media (or ...zionist empire..). The individual is no longer equipped with these means of analysis learnt from the good mind gymnastics of early mathematics reasoning. Our elder ones did know a lots of things that most of us are no more able to understand today. Those who planed the mathematic programmes through different classes foristence, were highly wised people. Helas , those who wanted that most folks become stupid , knew a few as well. Anyway , interesting question but a thread without a reasoning basis , can be entered by two different peoples : Those who agree can say : " yes" . That's all.
no matter how huge and infinite the entire universe is, I do believe it has a beginning. That beginning is the centre of the universe. That beginning has been travelling on a straight line, not per se, and even though the journey or expansion is branching out, still the concept is a single line, meaning that the source of the form of life is always one. Theoritically speaking, the source of the origin our species continue to evolve, and shall continue to evolve as long as this species could hold on to its own source/s of life. No 2 things or greater than that had taken place and shape at exactly the same time. There has always been a single spark of event that took place and has been shaping up the beginning of the entire universe. polscie
Wait a second... Are you suggesting that we are at the center of the universe? Yes, there is a common source (Big Bang or Divine Creation or whatever), but why are we the only resulting life? Why do we egocentric humans believe that we are alone in the universe? If your argument is that we were first, why would that be so? We may or may not be alone in the universe, but we haven't exactly developed intergalactic (or even interstellar) travel yet. Statistically, even if humans are the only life forms, the universe is constantly expanding, so eventually, no matter how unlikely (~1/(10^150)), there will be the same, exact arrangement of particles somewhere else in the universe. Then we get into multiverses, the creation/possible destruction of the universe, and the edge of the visible universe and what lies beyond. (By the way, "visible universe" means the area of the universe that is visible to us, which is the area of the universe that manages to get light to us, which is a sphere (not counting space-time distortion and all that fun stuff) of radius ~13 billion light-years, centered here. So we are the center of the visible universe, but not the center of the universe.)
I am a sentient being. This puts me in the same class as all other sentient beings in the universe- above the non-sentient. Yes my body is homo sapien but I am more than a homo sapien... I am also me.
Ah yes...Those pesky Troglodytes. Flying about in their fancy UFO's and sucking up all those good resources from the inside out.
Not saying it is true but there is much written about the subject. Just as viable as little green men from Mars, Planet X, or God is really an ET. 　 　 http://www.ourhollowearth.com/ 　 　 　 Humans think they know everything until it proven they don't, and what little we actually know seems to be a continuing factor in the history of mankind.
