Pat Buchanan: Did FDR Provoke Pearl Harbor?

More blame for the war between Japan and the US can be placed at Teddy Roosevel's feet than FDR. Either way, unlike the war in Europe, the conflict in the Pacific was unavoidable.

 

The Japanese invaded China. What was the US supposed to do? Just look on, and say, well, although we are a free country, believing in Democracy, there is no reason why we should not continue trading with a FANATICAL military dictatorship which just invaded another sovereign nation.

FDR had no choice but to suspend trade. And to blame US for provocation due to oil embargo is rediculous. Why should US keep supplying oil to help build and maintain a navy rivaling the US NAVY, when that country has just commited an act of aggression by war.

 

Hitler was so determined to avoid war that he invaded Poland to avoid it. And of course the Low Countries, and Norway, and France, etc.

He was just a misunderstood pacificist, and never understood why people objected to his tanks being used to prevent wars.

 

Really? I would like to believe this. I don't, not automatically, but it's nice to know that the theory is still out there.

 

Not according to Pat Buchanan.

From his book 'Where the Right Went Wrong':

Quote "We fought The Revolution to be free of British rule; The War of 1812 because the Royal Navy refused to respect the rights of our seamen. We took on Mexico to keep Texas and take California. Lincoln fought the Civil War to restore the Union....We fought in Korea and Vietnam to prevent those nations from falling to a communist empire...ect ect.."

Or do you consider Buchanan to be just another "idiot" like the rest of us ? In which case, your link is kind of useless..

Bro

 

You don't think taking Cali was about money?

 

FDR orchestrated US involvement in WWII - and who would be pitted against each other (particularly regarding Japan).

 

I think it was about territory and money. Never said wars didn't involve money. I dispute that money is their only purpose.

Bro

 

You see, I'm not supporting what the Government is saying, because the Government isn't saying anything. My conclusions have been reached by using logic and researching the matter thoroughly....something you seldom seem to do prior to posting.

That is the problem with most conspiracy theories. They look good with all of their circumstantial evidence and the mere fact that the evidence IS circumstantial, they are hard to argue with.

However, most conspiracy theories will not hold up to the most basic of questions: WHY???

When the question is presented in front of the theory that FDR knew PH was to be attacked and allowed it to happen. The whole theory collapses. The first answer you hear is "Well, it was to get the US into war with Japan". However, if you think about it, FDR didn't NEED for PH to be a disaster to go to war with Japan.

Japan not only attacked PH, but it attacked the Philippines (PI) and Borneo. Either one of those actions were enough for the US to go to war against Japan. The US placed the sanctions on Japan that led to the war because of Japan's aggression in China. The fact that they attacked US holdings in the PI was plenty of reasons to go to war. If FDR knew of Japan's intent towards PH he could have ambushed the KB (Japan carrier task force) and could have even looked the hero.

Bottom line is that FDR didn't need PH to be attacked to achieve war against Japan, so why allow it to be attack. Public opinion wasn't the reason, as the people would have been peeved enough at just the attack on the PI and Wake Island.

 

I'm not at all sure that Japan attacking PI and Borneo would have been enough to create the public sentiment for a call to arms. WWI created a very strong desire on the part of Americans to avoid another war - we literally became nearly isolationist.

And I think that FDR thought the same.

I believe that there is too much evidence of what Japan was doing to ignore the idea that FDR prompted Japan to commit an act of war against America that left no doubt of our need to enter the fray.

 

I've always agreed with that. If america wants to NOT sell oil to japan, that's up to america. Japan can't justify pearl by saying "the americans wouldn't sell us their oil".

What the oil embargo did was convince japan that america was their enemy and war was inevitable. And japan knew their only chance to win the war was to strike first. If the carriers had been at pearl, they might have won the war.

 

Hitler didn't want a world war. Don't forget that over the last 60 years america has invaded korea, vietnam, iraq (twice), afghanistan, libya and other countries.

 

Yes yes yes. The public is always given some moral reason for the war like fighting communism or terrorism. But the real reason is profiteering. The rich want to get richer and they bribe the officials of both sides into going to war.

Do you really think wars are unavoidable and just one of those things we have to accept?

 

How do you know that FDR knew the phllippines were also to be attacked? Very possible he only knew about the coming pearl attack and so let it happen.

I think it's also telling that the aircraft carriers were not at pearl that day. FDR was a navy man and knew the carriers were what really mattered and he made sure they were gone that day.

 

Dont know about Hitler not wanting war but the rest is all correct.In fact,many people dont realise it that Bush Sr's father Prescott Bush,helped put Hitler into power and funded the nazi's.Our government always funds BOTH sides.WAR MEANS BIG BUSINESS.

 

that sums it up how it all happened.

 

It did not need to be done.FDr was a criminal and should have been jailed so same goes for Prescott Bush and many other prominent americans who funded the nazi.

 

a post full of pure lies and propaganda.

 

we got some paid shills that have penetrated this site to post propaganda.

 

actually he is,he hit the nail right on the head,just because your in denial does not mean he is wrong.

 

so very true.

 

not even close to the truth as always.

 

Using modern day CSI technology it is apparent that you can see FDR piloting the lead torpedo Japanese bomber.
Thanksfully, he survived his attack to return to the US and lead us through his own attack horrifics. DOH.

Who the fark cares and what does it matter to those of us without jobs today??? Lets start a war with Japan so we can go to work and get paid to pay our bills... where is FDR now? :sarcasm:

 

except its not theory.Like i said before,you need to read the book DAY OF DECEIT.it is based on thousands of declassified documents and has overwhelming evidence that is indeed what transpired.

 

again you nailed it.