If corporations could run wild in a free market, why are they buying Obama/Romney?

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  1. NetworkCitizen

    NetworkCitizen New Member

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    Instead of flooding Ron Paul with money?

    Because the government works for them to kill the competition and bail them out.

    Sorry your theory about true free market principles was just busted!
     
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    Could be that libertarian views are against interest of any company ?
    Duh...

    7. Libertarians are not boosters of big business. People often misconstrue the free market position as a “pro-big business” position, but that’s actually not true. In fact, libertarians tend to believe that big business favors big government (big businesses have the resources to comply with bureaucratic barriers and regulations, while their competitors — start ups, for example — cannot compete.) Thanks to the writings of conservatives like Tim Carney and Jonah Goldberg, this fallacy has lately been corrected.

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/22/w...ve-8-things-you-might-not-know/#ixzz1hJ0cOdaI
     
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    This is true.

    Then again, if the libertarian ideal became reality, competition would be temporary in most markets as well.

    Whether through government or through market mechanics, competition is a transitional state in most cases. Eventually, it dwindles down to an oligopoly or a monopoly.
     
  4. NetworkCitizen

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    The argument that statists like to make about the free market is that corporations would run wild and take advantage of workers and pummel everything in their path. Top corporations donate to Obama and Romney because they are big government crony capitalist who will ensure the success of their partners in crime.

    The government doesn't work for the people.
     
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    Goldman Sachs would like to be a monopoly, they like Obama and Romney.

    At this point in time our government is completely compromised and loosening their tongues from one another would seem to be of utmost importance.
     
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    I can agree with that. If Paul gets the nomination, I'll vote for him.

    Hell, I might even vote for him if he doesn't....
     
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    Cheers!:xmassanta:
     
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    The free market only works in 3rd world countries. The wealthy are more dependent on the Government than anyone else in this country. Especially the corporations.
     
  9. Serfin' USA

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    Well, in certain areas of the 3rd world, corporations ARE the government.

    Whether your country is rich or poor, the elite run things. You can't really escape that.

    It's only a matter of how tolerably your elites choose to run things that matters.

    Our elites aren't as bad as the elites of Nigeria, for example.
     
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    I agree with this, and might even use it as my sig. The free market is not pro-big business
     
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    That's right, the free market levels the playing field for competition. That's why the common democrat's stance against the free market, while simultaneously standing against "large corporations" makes no sense.

    I can tell you this, I'd rather have a bunch of grills, delis, and home-cooking restaurants rather than seeing unhealthy fast food garbage all over the place. I'd rather have general stores or at least more competing general product stores rather than a Walmart every 5 miles. I think this global web of big banker debt has really screwed things up also, no?

    I guess we should all just bend over and accept that we will be ruled by big government/corporate conglomeration. At least take a stance and say that you support bailouts, selective taxation and regulation, instead of a free market with a level playing field.
     
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    Well, aside from natural market externalities.

    Competition rarely deals with a truly "level playing field", even in markets barely hindered by government.

    For example, building and staffing a hospital requires a lot of capital, so even mid-size cities usually only have a few hospital networks. Even if we had a completely unregulated medical market, it would cost a lot to start a new one.

    The market compensates for this via clinics, but those are only good for certain relatively basic treatments most of the time.

    Barriers to entry are still plentiful in a lot of markets even without government intervention, which is why some intervention is aimed at reducing those barriers. Obviously, it doesn't always work as intended.
     
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    People, both supporters and haters of capitalism, to view corporations as private and capitalistic since they don't force you to use their services
     
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    Wait, what?
     
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    The fact that the large corporations support Obama and Romney instead of Ron Paul, throws a bit of a wrench in the idea that a truly free market economy would greatly benefit the largest corporations.

    They support Obama and Romney because big government benefits big corporations.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    I see. That's absolutely right. Most of what government does is create barriers to entry which protects big business from competition.
     

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