Huntsman:I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy

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We have wished, we ecofreaks, for a disaster or for a social change to come and bomb us into Stone Age, where we might live like Indians in our valley, with our localism, our appropriate technology, our gardens, our homemade religion -- guilt-free at last! -- Stewart Brand (writing in the Whole Earth Catalogue

We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects . . . We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of tens of millions of acres of presently settled land. -- David Foreman, Earth First!

Everything we have developed over the last 100 years should be destroyed. -- Pentti Linkola

The only real good technology is no technology at all. Technology is taxation without representation, imposed by our elitist species (man) upon the rest of the natural world -- John Shuttleworth

What we've got to do in energy conservation is try to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, to have approached global warming as if it is real means energy conservation, so we will be doing the right thing anyway in terms of economic policy and environmental policy. -- Timothy Wirth, former U.S. Senator (D-Colorado)

Kill 'Em All And Let God Sort 'Em Out

I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems. -- John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs. -- John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing....This is not to say that the rise of human civilization is insignificant, but there is no way of showing that it will be much help to the world in the long run. -- Economist editorial

We advocate biodiversity for biodiversity’s sake. It may take our extinction to set things straight -- David Foreman, Earth First!

Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental. -- Dave Forman, Founder of Earth First!

Human happiness, and certainly human fecundity, is not as important as a wild and healthy planets...Some of us can only hope for the right virus to come along. -- David Graber, biologist, National Park Service

The collective needs of non-human species must take precedence over the needs and desires of humans. -- Dr. Reed F. Noss, The Wildlands Project

If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels. -- Prince Phillip, World Wildlife Fund

Cannibalism is a "radical but realistic solution to the problem of overpopulation." -- Lyall Watson, The Financial Times, 15 July 1995

Poverty For 'Those People'

We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels. -- Carl Amery

Every time you turn on an electric light, you are making another brainless baby -- Helen Caldicott, Union of Concerned Scientists

To feed a starving child is to exacerbate the world population problem -- Lamont Cole

The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States: We can't let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the U.S. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are. And it is important to the rest of the world to make sure that they don't suffer economically by virtue of our stopping them. -- Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund

Wrong Again

The continued rapid cooling of the earth since WWII is in accord with the increase in global air pollution associated with industrialization, mechanization, urbanization and exploding population. -- Reid Bryson, "Global Ecology; Readings towards a rational strategy for Man", (1971)

The battle to feed humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. Population control is the only answer -- Paul Ehrlich - The Population Bomb (196

I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000 -- Paul Ehrlich in (1969)

In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish. -- Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970)

Before 1985, mankind will enter a genuine age of scarcity . . . in which the accessible supplies of many key minerals will be facing depletion -- Paul Ehrlich in (1976)

This [cooling] trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century -- Peter Gwynne, Newsweek 1976

There are ominous signs that the earth's weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production - with serious political implications for just about every nation on earth. The drop in food production could begin quite soon... The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologist are hard-pressed to keep up with it. -- Newsweek, April 28, (1975)

This cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000. -- Lowell Ponte "The Cooling", 1976

If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder by the year 2000...This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age. -- Kenneth E.F. Watt on air pollution and global cooling, Earth Day (1970)

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The fascist economic model was, simply, capitalism, though clearly the bully-boys expected certain priviledges. There are very few liberals in Europe, as you know, and liberalism, as you also know, is the normal ideaology of capitalism: unconstrained capitalism, as you know, simply produces world slumps, always. Hitler lost the war because he did NOT adopt serious planning, as Churchill did. Capitalism, as you know, has never worked without the intervention of the capitalist state. Hitler did not run a welfare state: he went, like the United States, for militarised Keynesiansism to keep the idiot nonsense going while he murdered the Jews to justify the international market.

 

Not really.

Hitler demanded control of production and the biggest share of the profits to fund his central planning cradle to grave welfare state.

He believed that the best and brightest should sit around in Berlin and make all the important decisions for the country.

It isn't capitalism when the government decides what the people want and when they should get it.

 

No - capitalism is when the very rich screw everyone else, as you know. And whatever Hitler waffled about ('National socialism', for instance) what he did was obey his capitalist masters and lose the war.

 

Huntsman:I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy



Well, I'm a Republican and I agree with Huntsman. That doesn't mean I believe man came from an ape though and it doesn't mean I believe global warming is mostly man made. Although I do believe we can help cut it down to some degree. It's hard, or next to impossible to know if we are going through another warming cycle. The earth has gone through many warm and cold cycles in the millions of years it's existed. Places that are now vast deserts, were once lush greenery. Such as in Egypt and Arizona.

 

it relates to the op in that it's a presidential candidate's view of evolution

 

Weren't the communist bosses in the old Soviet Union rich?

I think they were quote wealth as are the elites in every Marxist-based society.

 

Not individually - State Capitalism doesn't work like that - but as a class, yes, obviously.

 

His campaign is over he just shot himself in the foot.

One more Democrat disguised as a Conservative goes down in flames!

 

Huntsman is wrong. Clearly, we evolved because the Flying Spaghetti Monster deemed it so.

 

Hold on just a minute....Mussolini said he shot that down and ate it during WWII.

 

But, but, but, proffessor Rush Lintball seid Glubal Worming is a mith and all sientists are liburalz who want to steel our trucks and gunz.

 

Blasphemer!

 

Evolution? Who cares?

Pro-AGW? Call you unelectable.

 

Huntsman didn't give Republican primary voters a fair shot. His campaign manager, John Weaver, is a loser. He was the guy running McCain's campaign when McCain was flying coach in 2008 with no staff. McCain didn't start to take off until he fired Weaver. A Republican campaign adviser who refers to Republican voters as "cranks" isn't going to take his candidate very far in a Republican primary race.

Huntsman's problems are not evolution, and they are not religious (i.e. Mormon and AGW supporter). They are that he has taken a fairly conservative record; much more conservative than Newt or Mitt, and managed to make it appear as if he's a liberal in order to win praise from the media. It's a loser strategy. Huntsman might still have a chance if he fires Weaver and hires someone who wants to make the case for Huntsman that he's conservative, but as long as Huntsman is chasing the approval of MSNBC he's a not even a has been.