Americans And Their Guns

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  1. MisLed

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    DON'T tell them where you are!
     
  2. MisLed

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    gun control, population control, LIGHT BULB control.

    Liberalism. Ideas so good they have to be mandated.
     
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    Also, I should add about Somalia:

     
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    That's the fantasy of weak, frightened little men. Actually what you end up with is very dangerous cowards who are armed.

    A Denver policeman was responding to a prowler call and the homeowner shot the uniformed police office. He knew it was the prowler. When you're scared you don't think straight.
     
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    you got that right!

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FF7CfqMFgs"]Crazy Deer Attacks Little Football Player - KDKA - YouTube[/ame]

    deers will (*)(*)(*)(*) you up!
     
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    Why in your minds are the lawless always the stronger?
     
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    Really? Do you remember that time you said this?


     
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    They don't always have to be stronger, one is enough.

    Beside, if you think about out, it makes sense, a criminal will likely only prey upon victims that appear to be weaker than the criminal is. Thus any criminal a person encounters will probably be stronger than that person is.
     
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    Thousands of unarmed women are raped every year. When you are unarmed you have no defense against a rapist.
     
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    Why do you think there are courses that teach women how to defend themselves against rape? For example, a few months ago, Park Slope, Brooklyn, New York City, New York experienced an increase in rapes. The community decided to take a stand by providing self-defense classes for women. Since then, I have not heard of an increase in rapes in the area. You do not need a gun to defend yourself against a rapist.
     
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    How many criminals attempting to rape a woman are shot? Do you have any evidence that armed woman are less likely to be raped??
     
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    Yes. As many as 200,000 women use a firearm to defend themselves against a sexual predator each year. The vast majority are not shot.

    Kleck and Gertz, "Armed Resistance to Crime," at 185.

    http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPa...&handle=hein.journals/jclc86&div=16&id=&page=

    Any other dumb questions?
     
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    In most cases, just pulling a gun is enough to deter a rapist, no shots need be fired.

    One of the best studies of defensive firearm use mentions that.
    http://www.guncite.com/gcdgklec.html

    The study was conducted well and the results can be surprising.
     
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    Anyone here have any evidence to suggest that guns are not an effective tool to defend against a sexual predator?
     
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    Guns are effective, but I would suggest that self-defense without a gun is equally effective. I will reference to my statements on Park Slope, Brooklyn as an example.
     
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    IMO no one should be smiling while posing with a gun. Guns are for self defence, not happy snaps.
     
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    Depends if the attacker is able to disable you before you even realise there is a threat.
    But self defence classes should be enough to get you out of trouble, I would think.
     
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    I agree. However, it is personal preference.

    Here are some articles about self-defense classes amidst an increase in rapes in Park Slope, Brooklyn:

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/09...-continues-to-investigate-park-slope-attacks/

    http://www.metro.us/newyork/local/a...learn-defense-with-park-slope-rapist-on-loose

    http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/09/petition_reques.php
     
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    My wife weighs 100 lbs. No simple self defense class is going to allow her to handle a 200 lb male attacker.

    Guns are safe and she is a law abiding citizen, there is no reason for her not to carry a gun.
     
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    Alright, that is your opinion. However, have you ever experienced a series of rapes in your area? If so, has your wife been concerned for her safety? How did she think she should be defended or how she should defend herself?
     
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    It doesn't matter how skinny you are, its about how strong you are. I am not very big either, but I am a hell of alot stronger than I was. Its about skills and how you use them.
     
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    She isn't very strong and she has a heart condition.

    And no simple once a week class is going to teach a 100 lb woman to handle some 200 lb convict who spent the last 3 years in prison lifting weights. That's utterly ridiculous.
     
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