Ron Paul: Eliminate the Dept. of Energy

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  1. Silence_Dogood

    Silence_Dogood New Member

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    I think that we should create a Department of Life, and commit at least $1T/yr so that we can try to find cures for deadly diseases, and get these cures to the needy. We have a right to live, so we should have a Federal department find solutions to help us live longer.

    How could someone like Ron Paul be so irresponsible and not advocate this? Does he want us all to die?

    :roll:
     
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  2. lolcatz

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    Well, that is subjective. Car accidents dont kill you 10+ years later, or give you cancer...

    Fukishima released 6+ times the radiation that Chernobyl did.
    When Chernobyl melted down, it released enough radiation to double the amount in the Northern Hemisphere. Also, Residents of Chernobyl are still today being affected by the radiation.
     
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    intrastate commerce is under a Federal Dept????
     
  4. politicalanalyst

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    I think he mean interstate. A simple mistake really.
     
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    He said, "to regulate interstate commerce, intrastate commerce, and international trade."

    You think he meant to say, "to regulate interstate commerce, interstate commerce, and international trade."?

    Hmmm, oKay.
     
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    the solution is simple. don't build a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing nuclear reactor where natural disasters occur!
     
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    Based upon rulings from Supreme Court cases, yes. Heart of Atlanta Hotel vs. United States made it so the federal government could regulate intrastate commerce because all commerce could be considered (according to the federal government) interstate commerce. However, one can easily understand that this is not true. Regardless, the Department of Commerce can and does regulate intrastate commerce.
     
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    1. DoD
    2. State Department
    3. State Department
    4. DoD
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Building a nuclear power plant on a seismically active island in an area that is prone to flooding by tsunamis is the problem, not nuclear energy as a whole.
     
  11. Dan40

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    What the SCOTUS decided was that the motel WAS engaged in INTERSTATE commerce since its business was 75% out of state business.

    If your business is 100% within your state, you do not fall under the federal commerce clause.
     
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    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We need a Department of Political Forums.
     
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    Yea well that pretty much gives the Federal Government control of all trade does it not? Mcdonald's does a lot of interstate trade if you consider all those resturants on the interstate. It is a rather bogus and in your face "(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)-Slap" by the Courts to the States. One that should be given back, while not a Gingrich fan, I have to say if a few courts along with a few buildings in DC burnt to the ground it wouldn't upset me all that much.

    Dept of Energy, Dept of Edu, Dept of Commerce and a few if not lot more should be eliminated tomorrow if not today.
     
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    Do you think it is statitically possible for a business to have a 100% in-state clientele? Do you think it is statistically possible for a business to have 100% in-state products? Do you think it is statistically possible for a business to have 100% in-state inputs for production of its goods and services? If you answer no to one of these questions, then the federal government, under the rationale of the Supreme Court can and does regulate intrastate commerce, and does so through the Department of Commerce.
     
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    This is one thing that I disagree with Paul on.

    The mission of the DoE can certainly be scaled back, but beyond protecting nuclear material and weapons, the DoE also has another key duty. It has the monopoly on the production and enrichment of nuclear materials in the US, for both military projects and civilian plants.

    I'm sorry, but I'm not prepared to turn the power to make nukes and radioactive material over to the States or the free market.
     
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    Why not destroy all our nukes and force Russia to do the same. Maybe keep a few safe ones as a bargaining chip
     
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    Easy

    Ron Paul advocates dismantling the Dept. of Engery whose mission includes:

    •Insuring the integrity and safety of the country's nuclear weapons
    •Promoting international nuclear safety
    •Advancing nuclear non-proliferation
    •Continuing to provide safe, efficient and effective nuclear power plants for the United States Navy.

    Just how does Paul plan on carrying out what was the DoE's mission?

    1) Leave the safety of the nuclear weapons to the DoD
    2) Leave the international safety to the thousands of NGO's who do a better job
    3) Non-proliferation is a function of the State Department and international treaties
    4) Let the US Navy run their own power plants

    See how easy this is when you use common sense?
     
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    It would be great if we could deactivate our nuclear weapons, as long as we can maintain the capability to reactivate them in a quick and efficient manner.
     
  19. Dan40

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    And what do we do with Canada's nukes, the UK's nukes, Germany's nukes, France's nukes, and even more serious, Israel's nukes, and Pakistan's nukes, and India's nukes, and China's nukes, and N. Korea's nukes and S. Korea's nukes. And Iran's nukes, I cannot believe they haven't already developed one.

    One of the DoE's missions was to prevent the SPREAD of nuclear weapons.

    Haven't they done a terrific job?:puke:

    The DoE is an abject failure in everything it has tried. Rivaled only by most of the other Cabinet Departments. And I don't mean under the present administration. Many government dept have failed under every administration and party.
     
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    No President in history was a jack of all trades. and RP is no different so by Ron Paul dismantaling the DoE, it's a good start.

    what is Obama doing? exactly....NOTHING

    This idea to shut them down will also send the Green Energy nutjobs away and we can focus on REAL sustainable energy.
     
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    What do you consider "REAL" sustainable energy? Oil? Natural Gas?
     
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    How exactly would we force Russia to do the same?

    You are aware that there are 7 other nuclear powers, right?
     
  23. Dan40

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    Try Hydrogen, with the abundant Natural Gas as the transitional fuel until hydrogen is readily available. Wind, Solar, and mobile electric are not feasible.
     
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    Canada, South Korea, and Germany do not possess nuclear weapons. They have access to US nuclear weapons.
     
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    Well, that solves everything, doesn't it?
     

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