Where the Real Jobs Are

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  1. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    oh yea, im (*)(*)(*)(*)ing thrilled, I am off the wall with excitement!
     
  2. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    So I suppose Obama has your support and vote this November. After all, you said a few thousand jobs sounds great to you. Since Obama has been POTUS, the Country is no longer shedding 700K jobs a month. Obviously, people are being hired.

    He does not have my vote, but he isn't the anti-christ commie you cons paint him to be. LOL
     
  3. Badmutha

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    And without Obama as President......would we still be losing 700K jobs per month? Would we all be dead yet?

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  4. Clint Torres

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    A lot of jobs openings in agriculture. And abroad.
     
  5. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    Nope, I don't think he has done enough. thanks

    I am for Ron Paul baby!
     
  6. johnmuir4life

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    Am I silly for believing that, a la the 1930s, we could revitalize our nation, rebuild our infrastructure, and move forward as a nation into a new world dependent not on limited fuels but on clean, renewable energy? Some sort of 21st century CCC or CWA that will focus on clean fuel stations, new roads and bridges, and conservation of resources? The replacement of gas stations with other fuels alone would create jobs across the country for at least a decade or two.
     
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    Ayuh,... You sure are....


    The Unions would put a Stop to it, before it could get started....

    Those are Union jobs yer wantin' to put workers into...
     
  8. johnmuir4life

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    But there were workers unions in the 1930s, and these things still got done. Theres clearly an excess of workers in this country and, as it stands today, not enough jobs for them all.
     
  9. sec

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    http://ghost32.hubpages.com/hub/Finding-A-Job-In-North-Dakota-The-Baken-Oil-Drilling-Boom

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/unemployed-flock-north-dakota-advantage-job-boom/story?id=14772915


    imagine that!!!! jobs and businesses created to support the oil workers which means even more jobs jobs jobs

    drill baby drill

    why is it the liberals here and in the media completely ignore ND?
     
  10. sec

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    please, speak very clearly about that. i am curious as to what those "new fuels" would be and the financing available to the owners to invest in conversion, lost revenue and the increased profit to pay for the investment

    please elaborate because we hear these nice theoretical statements as if "the one" can snap his fingers and make it so. This isn't HS or college, this is the real world so please share the biz plan on how this happens
     
  11. 17thAndK

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    Update: Liberals and the media are not in charge of drilling in the Bakken fields. Once the price of oil stabilizes at something rather higher than what it is today, prospects for the long-term viability of the fields will be brighter and bigger money is then apt to move in.
     
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    Once upon a time, a few people realized that we were eventually going to have to get off of candles and whale oil. A few of those people invested in some crabby old coot named Edison. Worked out pretty well for them. A lot of people invested in somebody else. Didn't go quite so well over there.
     
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    Why? Won't it get sold to the highest bidder?
     
  14. johnmuir4life

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    Good point I suppose. We have not developed the sources yet, even though we've had over a century to come up with alternative fuels. The fact that we have not replaced a gasoline powered engine on a simple car, yet have gone from not flying at all to going to the freakin moon and back FORTY years ago makes me sad.

    However, my point about infrastructure, bridges, tunnels, roads, etc, is legit. A large percentage of them are in need of repair and that would create jobs nationwide, jobs that cannot be outsourced either, for several years to decades perhaps.
     
  15. Nikolaos

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    The real jobs are at wherever the market decides they are at. Taking money from productive industry so another industry can survive is not good economic policy. I do not mean to offend any green business that can survive and contribute to society without government assistance but any who can't doesn't deserve government money any more than any other business does and no business deserves government funding besides essential services and defence.
     
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    You might want to write a letter to the head-of-state of every country you can think of, because all of them are doing exactly that. The problems of US solar panel manufacturers for instance do not result from their inferior products or processes, but from the fact that European and particularly Chinese competitors are subsidized, massively so in China's case, by their governments. Those governments recognize the long-term value to their societies of alternative energy industries and want to be sure that their own survive to be a part of that, regardless of the fact that they can't actually compete today. Arguments like yours recognize only the short-term value of these companies to investors. If it can't make a profit for two quarters in a row, pull out, dump it, let it die, and move on to invest in something else. Penny wise and pound foolish.

    This is very naive thinking. You need to read/study a great deal more.
     
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    however technology has taken vehicles which got 8mpg and sat 5 or 6 to vehicles which get 30+ mpg and seat 5 or 6. That's not too shabby

    If you want even better results, demand that diesel vehicles which can be bought in other countries and get 80 mpg be imported and sold here. But wait, that would put a kabbash on the whole taxpayer bailout to build the Volt or it would rain on the whole Hybrid nonsense.

    We use less fuel to generate electricity, appliance are more efficient, homes are more efficient as are HVAC systems and the list goes on

    much progress has been made but is never mentioned by the enviro whackjobs or those with a political agenda and need the Solyndra's to exist even if paid with taxpayer dollars.
     
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    It is quite obvious what Democrats want.

    They want to squeeze out private sector middle class jobs and ensure that the only middle class paying jobs are paid for by the Government.

    That way, people will have to rely on Government as a form of working welfare, and will vote for the party that will protect their working welfare at all costs. Since Republicans want to shrink Government, which means destroying the working welfare of the Government apparatchik class, that means Democrats can provide themselves with an almost unlimited about of voters by simply hiring them.

    "Work for me, vote for me, because the other guy wants to toss you out into the street to work for the private sector."

    The private sector Government destroyed with overregulation intentionally assuring there are no more private sector jobs that pay a middle class wage.
     
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    so, that's a biz plan in a nutshell??? OK, thanks
     
  20. BestViewedWithCable

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    Obama's Jobs Czar moved all the Real Jobs we paid for, to CHINA.

    Personally, Im kinda distraught. I never would have believed people would follow the lies of the left handed....
     
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    Conservatives should let Obama win this one, and cave in on the "tax the rich" confiscation too (although it would only hurt small businesses, given the way the U. S. Tax Code is set up). Giving President Toothfairy victories in these two things would only hasten his departure from the White House. Hint: prairie dogs and welfare-sucking, hyperlib Demos have at least one thing in common -- they don't pay any taxes. But prairie dogs can't vote, either, and so we hope that Obama throws the full weight of his, uh, "presidency" in support of this constituency.... :-D
     
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    Nice try, but Obama has already tried throwing money at green jobs and it has been a dismal failure.

    If windmills and solar panels made in China were the answer to jobs in America he would have solved the problem by now.

    But instead of being the green economic recovery president and lowering the level of the oceans as he promised before taking office Der Furher has become the Food Stamps President and the Extended Unemployment Benefits President.

    When we think of green jobs we think of workers in Finland making electric cars because of US taxpayer dollars they got from Obama.

    And Chinese workers cranking out solar panels in factories inside China.

    And of course Solyndra.

    Obama is good at taking vacations and playing golf but he has not done anything useful for the American people.
     
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    How are those Solydra jobs going???
     
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    Ted Kennedy didn't want windmills in his backyard.
     
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    How many of you libs who are so against using fossil fuels are off of them???

    How many of you totally heat/cool your home with green energy? How many of you have an electric car? The technology is out there...so show of hands.
     
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